some G25_K12b Network of large pedigrees reveals social practices of Avar communities

[Capsian20]

Hello everyone , i created some G25_K12b according Theytree 

RKF223,0.092929,-0.015198,0.027594,-0.011767,-0.016736,-0.008879,-0.005763,-0.007650,-0.009688,-0.004478,-0.007254,-0.002292,0.004030,-0.002416,-0.002318,-0.000551,-0.001057,0.000330,0.001123,0.003028,0.000325,-0.000484,0.000419,0.000516,0.002231
RKF210,0.079295,-0.089108,0.056632,0.012737,-0.031821,-0.013003,-0.012336,-0.016072,-0.008076,-0.003422,-0.006487,-0.000344,0.000229,-0.004322,-0.005249,-0.004300,0.000453,0.001130,0.003822,0.004156,-0.000206,-0.003398,0.000099,0.001491,0.003792
RKF071,0.113131,0.162981,0.002954,-0.037635,0.033384,-0.019424,0.013047,0.015414,0.000113,0.025365,0.001786,0.006739,-0.011570,-0.001440,-0.001665,-0.005295,0.001684,-0.000300,-0.000007,0.003756,0.002145,0.002444,-0.003338,-0.000466,-0.000154
KUP021,0.104458,0.089132,0.029591,-0.010792,0.013860,-0.011639,0.000608,0.001653,0.006806,0.013542,0.000102,0.002494,-0.004365,-0.004446,0.000465,-0.000839,-0.001094,0.000548,0.001349,0.001879,0.001460,-0.000344,-0.001915,-0.000550,0.000932
RKF020,0.067474,-0.089852,0.031524,-0.013393,-0.032949,-0.022538,-0.011816,-0.013931,-0.000003,0.010057,-0.002210,0.002285,-0.003948,-0.007829,-0.003286,-0.002359,-0.000629,0.002237,0.005477,0.003756,0.001518,-0.004515,-0.001826,0.000791,0.004380
RKF038,0.086420,-0.039154,0.038218,-0.003221,-0.023629,-0.006264,-0.006231,-0.009699,-0.013769,-0.007431,-0.013201,-0.002333,0.003559,-0.002494,-0.002954,-0.001610,-0.000378,0.000220,0.001052,0.002331,-0.000142,-0.000962,0.001063,0.000465,0.002643
RKF041,0.100068,0.061729,0.020694,0.006492,-0.010164,-0.001485,-0.002443,-0.003835,-0.009077,-0.007758,0.001177,-0.001703,0.003246,-0.000458,-0.000892,0.000379,-0.001102,0.000141,0.000864,0.002022,-0.000509,0.000215,-0.000088,0.000240,0.000089
RKF106,0.127114,0.137808,0.082959,0.078875,0.040441,0.029664,0.001676,0.001666,-0.009208,-0.028513,-0.005614,-0.007803,0.012752,0.009563,-0.003313,-0.002780,0.000738,-0.003190,-0.005198,0.002031,-0.003515,0.006438,0.003815,0.001482,-0.002868
RKF052,0.081843,-0.048788,0.055648,0.015276,-0.012617,-0.005191,-0.008082,-0.010722,-0.006268,-0.001482,-0.008316,-0.000440,0.000067,-0.003494,-0.003522,-0.002841,0.000028,0.000761,0.002566,0.002470,0.000142,-0.001347,0.000173,0.000813,0.002998
KUP025,0.025936,-0.407899,0.103510,-0.007750,-0.084615,-0.048281,-0.039645,-0.043457,0.008664,0.009748,-0.016701,-0.002329,0.003768,-0.013651,-0.011921,-0.006456,-0.000876,0.004488,0.011132,0.010305,0.002672,-0.010352,-0.001005,0.004251,0.010997
RKF223,0.092929,-0.015198,0.027594,-0.011767,-0.016736,-0.008879,-0.005763,-0.007650,-0.009688,-0.004478,-0.007254,-0.002292,0.004030,-0.002416,-0.002318,-0.000551,-0.001057,0.000330,0.001123,0.003028,0.000325,-0.000484,0.000419,0.000516,0.002231
RKF210,0.079295,-0.089108,0.056632,0.012737,-0.031821,-0.013003,-0.012336,-0.016072,-0.008076,-0.003422,-0.006487,-0.000344,0.000229,-0.004322,-0.005249,-0.004300,0.000453,0.001130,0.003822,0.004156,-0.000206,-0.003398,0.000099,0.001491,0.003792
KFJ019,0.071502,-0.182061,0.090909,0.013613,-0.041108,-0.031485,-0.023365,-0.027661,-0.000554,-0.001632,0.003382,-0.000237,0.000790,-0.005823,-0.010057,-0.007938,0.001024,0.002348,0.007505,0.009355,0.000183,-0.006039,-0.000920,0.003840,0.005644
RKF263,0.110167,0.142099,0.022543,-0.004638,0.029729,0.001355,0.007499,0.009220,-0.002685,0.009932,-0.002385,0.002950,-0.005514,-0.002088,0.001860,-0.001316,-0.000173,-0.001009,-0.001780,-0.000397,0.000330,0.001233,-0.000422,-0.001411,-0.000170
RKO002,0.146686,0.132820,0.133247,0.153820,0.047993,0.060489,-0.004333,-0.007146,-0.025036,-0.083550,-0.008390,-0.024319,0.041837,0.026542,-0.010302,-0.002448,0.000978,-0.005920,-0.010015,0.006777,-0.007854,0.015050,0.009279,0.005562,-0.006714
RKF274,0.119646,0.151549,0.062585,0.035091,0.049972,0.011671,0.001514,0.006626,0.012033,0.005734,-0.002663,-0.002050,0.002918,0.000380,0.001404,0.001273,-0.002100,-0.000903,-0.001821,0.000360,0.000554,0.003955,-0.000261,-0.000443,-0.001297

[Capsian20]

Model ancient of Davidski

Target: RKF274
Distance: 4.4443% / 0.04444278
44.0 TUR_Barcin_N
39.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
16.6 WHG
0.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: RKO002
Distance: 13.4165% / 0.13416485
74.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
25.8 WHG

Target: RKF263
Distance: 2.5604% / 0.02560353
37.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
36.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.8 TUR_Barcin_N
6.6 WHG
0.8 Gambian
0.6 MAR_Taforalt

Target: KFJ019
Distance: 3.9162% / 0.03916210
30.0 Nganassan
19.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.4 TUR_Barcin_N
16.4 Han
12.6 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
3.4 WHG
0.4 Yoruba

Target: RKF210
Distance: 3.0299% / 0.03029872
30.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.6 Nganassan
14.6 Han
13.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
10.8 TUR_Barcin_N
7.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
2.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
1.8 WHG
1.0 Yoruba

Target: RKF223
Distance: 2.3242% / 0.02324201
29.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
27.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
13.6 Han
10.2 Nganassan
8.2 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
6.4 Levant_PPNB
3.2 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
1.0 WHG

Target: KUP025
Distance: 6.6442% / 0.06644231
45.4 Nganassan
34.4 Han
19.2 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
1.0 Yoruba

Target: RKF052
Distance: 2.6924% / 0.02692406
34.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
20.0 TUR_Barcin_N
14.2 Han
13.4 Nganassan
7.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
5.2 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
3.8 WHG
1.6 Yoruba

Target: RKF106
Distance: 6.6032% / 0.06603235
56.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
25.8 TUR_Barcin_N
17.4 WHG

Target: RKF041
Distance: 1.6771% / 0.01677134
39.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
5.4 Nganassan
5.2 Han
3.8 Levant_PPNB
2.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.2 WHG
1.6 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
1.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.6 MAR_Taforalt
0.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.2 ETH_4500BP

Target: RKF038
Distance: 3.0334% / 0.03033444
31.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
29.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
14.8 Han
12.0 Nganassan
6.2 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
4.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.8 WHG
0.6 Yoruba
0.4 Levant_PPNB
0.2 MAR_Taforalt

Target: RKF020
Distance: 2.5509% / 0.02550851
19.0 Nganassan
15.6 TUR_Barcin_N
15.4 Han
15.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
8.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
6.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
3.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.8 MAR_Taforalt
1.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.0 WHG
1.0 Yoruba

Target: KUP021
Distance: 1.5884% / 0.01588427
34.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
31.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.2 TUR_Barcin_N
5.4 WHG
4.6 Nganassan
4.4 Han
2.0 MAR_Taforalt

Target: RKF071
Distance: 3.4918% / 0.03491826
38.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
24.2 TUR_Barcin_N
17.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.0 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
6.4 WHG
0.2 MAR_Taforalt

Target: RKF210
Distance: 3.0299% / 0.03029872
30.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.6 Nganassan
14.6 Han
13.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
10.8 TUR_Barcin_N
7.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
2.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
1.8 WHG
1.0 Yoruba

Target: RKF223
Distance: 2.3244% / 0.02324429
30.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
27.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
13.6 Han
10.2 Nganassan
8.0 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
6.4 Levant_PPNB
3.2 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.8 WHG

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KUP001,0.032714,-0.439335,0.115090,-0.008413,-0.103323,-0.062792,-0.048530,-0.053947,0.010148,0.008436,0.003700,0.000147,0.000660,-0.016922,-0.013057,-0.007705,-0.001084,0.005914,0.015287,0.012879,0.002135,-0.015177,-0.002378,0.005311,0.011766
RKF095,0.079302,-0.081571,0.049534,0.001927,-0.020103,-0.007538,-0.010614,-0.014777,-0.010869,-0.006220,-0.004752,-0.001167,0.001743,-0.004381,-0.003200,-0.001484,-0.000687,0.001173,0.003339,0.002614,0.000184,-0.002069,0.000463,0.000915,0.003659
RKF117,0.057722,-0.157307,0.057101,-0.005282,-0.041507,-0.022058,-0.019350,-0.022802,-0.002830,-0.000177,-0.003823,-0.000856,0.001775,-0.007926,-0.004664,-0.002786,-0.000941,0.001988,0.005320,0.004898,0.000632,-0.005812,-0.000018,0.001661,0.005611
RKF039,0.085792,-0.064039,0.043649,0.002124,-0.025568,-0.005649,-0.006812,-0.011652,-0.013067,-0.008267,-0.015814,-0.002476,0.003396,-0.002409,-0.003833,-0.001867,-0.000146,0.000669,0.001937,0.002387,0.000136,-0.000426,0.000824,0.000720,0.003025

[cottager]

Capsian20,
Please, if possible, specify the coordinates G25 for the sample 
RKF275.
Thank you.

[Capsian20]

Capsian20,
Please, if possible, specify the coordinates G25 for the sample 
RKF275.
Thank you.

yes of course but its only G25_K12b
RKF275,0.136441,0.150268,0.067302,0.047902,0.043892,0.020584,0.003057,0.004560,0.003884,-0.004836,-0.006216,-0.002485,0.002848,0.001256,0.001814,0.001611,-0.001716,-0.001045,-0.002027,-0.001588,-0.000464,0.004227,0.000692,-0.000832,-0.001639

[rafc]

To recap some of the information on this paper:

Not sure if this has been discussed before.

Network of large pedigrees reveals social practices of Avar communities

From 567/68 CE, the onset of the Avar period, populations from the Eurasian Steppe settled in the Carpathian Basin for approximately 250 years. An extensive sampling for archaeogenomics (424 individuals) and isotopes, combined with archaeological, anthropological, and historical contextualization on four Avar-period cemeteries, allowed for a detailed description of the genomic structure of these communities and their kinship and social practices. We present the largest set of pedigrees reconstructed so far through aDNA, spanning over 9 generations comprising ~300 individuals. We uncover a strict patrilineal kinship system, where patrilocality and female exogamy were the norm and multiple reproductive partnering and levirate unions were commonly practiced. The absence of consanguinity indicates this society maintained a detailed memory of ancestry over generations. These kinship practices correspond to the evidence of historical sources and anthropological research on Eurasian Steppe societies. Novel network analyses of identity-by-descent DNA connections suggest social cohesion between communities was maintained via females. Finally, despite the absence of major ancestry shifts, the level of resolution reached by our analyses allowed us to detect genetic discontinuity: the replacement of a community at one of the studied sites. This was paralleled with changes in the archaeological record and was likely due to local political realignment.

Looks like there's 440 samples!

The data is already available:

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB72021

Here is the Excel sheet with additional Avar samples. Around 50 are still missing; I will update the link tomorrow. Now, I have included the next best prediction along with their scores. The predictions come from (my fork of) CladeFinder, after some post-processing of the .vcf files, without manual verification. The predictions are conservative. I expect most females and very low-quality samples to be excluded from the file. Perhaps this approach is suboptimal compared to, for example, YLeaf, but it is part of a experimentation.

I think the list was never fully completed, but we have nearly all thanks to fj-blanco.

HNJ – Hajdúnánás
KFJ – Kunszállás – Fülöp Jakab
KUP - Kunpeszér
RKC, RKF, RKO – Rákóczifalva (probably all three)

I quickly checked the BAMs of 12 samples which were predicted J-L283 or downstream, more specifically: RKC002, RKC042, RKC011, RKC020, RKF036, RKC038, RKF046, RKF142, RKC036, RKF031, RKF016, RKF010.  They are all under J-L283>>Z631>>CTS11760

This is consistent with the idea that at least the vast majority of J-L283s are represented by a single paternal lineage/clan.

And now we have the G25:

New Global25 coordinates (Avar, Sarmatian, Gepid, etc. samples including labels from "Network of large pedigrees reveals social practices of Avar communities" study) based on the official genotype data - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xGPQI6c...sp=sharing

Official genotype data - https://server.poseidon-adna.org/zip_fil...rPedigrees

[rafc]

With G25 we can look at the samples a bit closer.

The many J2b samples (see quote from Trojet above for their subclade)


So the J2b are clearly a clan with semi-Avar like genes.
Same for the big J1 clan:


And again for the many N, who are fully Eastern Steppe:

[rafc]

The situation is very different for some other groups. V13 has it's typical wide spread from Thracian like to Central-European, J2a surprisingly is all Central European, while a lot of the I1 look fittingly like Germanics.



The I2 also look Central-European, while R1a is a bit all over the place, but on the WHG/Steppe side of things:

[Riverman]

The E-V13 look to me like locals plus people from East and South of the Carpathians. Not like coming from just one poplulation.

[eastara]

Not a single I2a-Dinaric! There was a theory, that they spread to the Balkans at least partially from Pannonia. The early Slavs must have already entered the Balkans around the Avar period. So where were the Dinarics hiding before that? Probably a North East and steppe route, or unsampled locals after all?

[Riverman]

Not a single I2a-Dinaric! There was a theory, that they spread to the Balkans at least partially from Pannonia. The early Slavs must have already entered the Balkans around the Avar period. So where were the Dinarics hiding before that? Probably a North East and steppe route, or unsampled locals after all?

I think its a combination of not the right place, too small of a population and cremation rite.

[rafc]

The paper is out:

Network of large pedigrees reveals social practices of Avar communities

Guido Alberto Gnecchi-Ruscone et al.

Abstract
From AD 567–568, at the onset of the Avar period, populations from the Eurasian Steppe settled in the Carpathian Basin for approximately 250 years1. Extensive sampling for archaeogenomics (424 individuals) and isotopes, combined with archaeological, anthropological and historical contextualization of four Avar-period cemeteries, allowed for a detailed description of the genomic structure of these communities and their kinship and social practices. We present a set of large pedigrees, reconstructed using ancient DNA, spanning nine generations and comprising around 300 individuals. We uncover a strict patrilineal kinship system, in which patrilocality and female exogamy were the norm and multiple reproductive partnering and levirate unions were common. The absence of consanguinity indicates that this society maintained a detailed memory of ancestry over generations. These kinship practices correspond with previous evidence from historical sources and anthropological research on Eurasian Steppe societies2. Network analyses of identity-by-descent DNA connections suggest that social cohesion between communities was maintained via female exogamy. Finally, despite the absence of major ancestry shifts, the level of resolution of our analyses allowed us to detect genetic discontinuity caused by the replacement of a community at one of the sites. This was paralleled with changes in the archaeological record and was probably a result of local political realignment.



https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07312-4

[Capsian20]

The paper is out:

Network of large pedigrees reveals social practices of Avar communities

Guido Alberto Gnecchi-Ruscone et al.

Abstract
From AD 567–568, at the onset of the Avar period, populations from the Eurasian Steppe settled in the Carpathian Basin for approximately 250 years1. Extensive sampling for archaeogenomics (424 individuals) and isotopes, combined with archaeological, anthropological and historical contextualization of four Avar-period cemeteries, allowed for a detailed description of the genomic structure of these communities and their kinship and social practices. We present a set of large pedigrees, reconstructed using ancient DNA, spanning nine generations and comprising around 300 individuals. We uncover a strict patrilineal kinship system, in which patrilocality and female exogamy were the norm and multiple reproductive partnering and levirate unions were common. The absence of consanguinity indicates that this society maintained a detailed memory of ancestry over generations. These kinship practices correspond with previous evidence from historical sources and anthropological research on Eurasian Steppe societies2. Network analyses of identity-by-descent DNA connections suggest that social cohesion between communities was maintained via female exogamy. Finally, despite the absence of major ancestry shifts, the level of resolution of our analyses allowed us to detect genetic discontinuity caused by the replacement of a community at one of the sites. This was paralleled with changes in the archaeological record and was probably a result of local political realignment.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07312-4

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[rafc]

It works fine for me ...

[Capsian20]

Now yes its work