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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
| ArmandoR1b wrote:
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What did he [Papac] suggest the sources were for Corded Ware and for Yamnaya?
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As for Corded Ware, he suggested that its origin lies in the north or northeast. Pap... |
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Kaltmeister |
R1b-L51
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05-16-2024, 09:50 AM |
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Thread: I2 in Yamnaya
Post: RE: I2 in Yamnaya
| Yes, I know this version of the theory. A model that identifies a common origin for both Yamnaya and Corded Ware makes sense. But where are the R1b-L151 samples, marking their origin in Ukraine? Where... |
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I2-M438
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05-05-2024, 10:03 PM |
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Thread: I2 in Yamnaya
Post: RE: I2 in Yamnaya
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Mithra Wrote: (05-05-2024, 02:59 PM)
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Sephesakueu Wrote: (05-05-2024, 01:30 PM)
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The possibility that Indo european languages may have origins among WHGs elites imposing it upon steppe herderers... |
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I2-M438
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05-05-2024, 04:27 PM |
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Thread: I2 in Yamnaya
Post: I2 in Yamnaya
| Here are all I2 men from the steppe, 31 altogether. The oldest one is from Yabalkovo, Bulgaria (5650 BCE). The oldest Kurgan burial is Berezhnovka 2 from the area of Wolgograd (4830 BCE).
152 sampl... |
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I2-M438
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05-05-2024, 01:01 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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parasar Wrote: (05-04-2024, 04:37 PM)
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If so, no shorter tail has wagged a dog this big.
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Yes, but the same applies to the mainstream idea that zero R1b-L151 men from the Steppe were the Indoeu... |
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R1b-L51
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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Cejo Wrote: (05-03-2024, 05:05 PM)
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I want to point out that "gigachad" implies genetic superiority (wiki link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_(slang))). To suggest that genetic superiority is ... |
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R1b-L51
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05-03-2024, 09:18 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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Sephesakueu Wrote: (05-02-2024, 02:26 AM)
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RCO is right , not just J1 but J2 also were along I2a the gigachad elite rulling over less robust less chad R1s with their narrow corded skulls.
https://t... |
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R1b-L51
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05-02-2024, 05:53 PM |
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Thread: WHG and Archaeological Cultures - a question?
Post: RE: WHG and Archaeological Cultures - a question?
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old europe Wrote: (04-08-2024, 09:56 AM)
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you have to learn this: I lines in Europe were found in Krems already in 31kya. I do not think they were brought by any ANE/EGH. We can find R1b P312 sampl... |
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Archaeology (Prehistory)
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04-08-2024, 10:24 AM |
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Thread: WHG and Archaeological Cultures - a question?
Post: RE: WHG and Archaeological Cultures - a question?
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old europe Wrote: (04-08-2024, 09:10 AM)
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no there is a clear cut division. Full paleo euros like WHG have only been found with I lines while R1b WHG are always ANE admixed and not by chance you fi... |
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Archaeology (Prehistory)
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04-08-2024, 09:34 AM |
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Thread: WHG and Archaeological Cultures - a question?
Post: RE: WHG and Archaeological Cultures - a question?
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old europe Wrote: (04-08-2024, 08:54 AM)
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no because the uniparentals do not match. We would see more ANE lineages into Europe ( even in the west) very early on. Instead we see WHG with R1b especia... |
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Archaeology (Prehistory)
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04-08-2024, 09:00 AM |
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Thread: WHG and Archaeological Cultures - a question?
Post: RE: WHG and Archaeological Cultures - a question?
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TanTin Wrote: (04-07-2024, 10:47 PM)
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Kaltmeister Wrote: (04-07-2024, 09:59 PM)
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TanTin Wrote: (04-07-2024, 08:01 PM)
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WHG are very interesting mixture of Paleo-Europeans with Central Asia (A... |
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Archaeology (Prehistory)
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04-08-2024, 08:48 AM |
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Thread: WHG and Archaeological Cultures - a question?
Post: RE: WHG and Archaeological Cultures - a question?
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TanTin Wrote: (04-07-2024, 08:01 PM)
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WHG are very interesting mixture of Paleo-Europeans with Central Asia (ANE).
The most interesting is that we have some Paleo_europeans who are not WHG...
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Archaeology (Prehistory)
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04-07-2024, 09:59 PM |
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Thread: Germanic lineage arrived from the east?
Post: RE: Germanic lineage arrived from the east?
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Jaska Wrote: (03-25-2024, 06:58 AM)
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Therefore, it is well possible that a new language spread with the East Scandinavian ancestry. [...]
During this era the Germanic lineage already appears to h... |
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Linguistics
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03-25-2024, 03:19 PM |
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Thread: Germanic lineage arrived from the east?
Post: RE: Germanic lineage arrived from the east?
| I would like to add another thought: Gemanic people in different times and different locations show a characteristic combination of I1- and R1b-U106 Y-haplogroups. Those early "East-Scandinavians", on... |
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Linguistics
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03-24-2024, 09:18 PM |
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Thread: Germanic lineage arrived from the east?
Post: RE: Germanic lineage arrived from the east?
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Jaska Wrote: (03-24-2024, 05:59 PM)
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Pre-Proto-Germanic is the usual name for the earliest phase of Germanic lineage, since ca. 3000 BCE to ca. 1000 BCE. After that, Paleo-Germanic precedes Proto-G... |
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Linguistics
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03-24-2024, 06:48 PM |
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Thread: Genetic Origins of Piast Family
Post: RE: Genetic Origins of Piast Family
| They probably found out that the Piasts were Germans or Vikings - and destroyed all the evidence... ;) |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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03-24-2024, 03:56 PM |
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Thread: Germanic lineage arrived from the east?
Post: RE: Germanic lineage arrived from the east?
| @Jaska
Many of your contributions focus on the question, if genetic changes result in linguistic changes - my opinion in this affair is that layering processes between two different populations wil... |
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Linguistics
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03-24-2024, 11:42 AM |
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Thread: Ancient I1 samples list and discussion
Post: RE: Ancient I1 samples list and discussion
| We will soon get to know the DNA results from the incoming Celtic study:
https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?tid=629
Are we going to see some M253 results here, reflecting an early, pre-Germ... |
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Kaltmeister |
I1-M253
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03-11-2024, 05:38 PM |
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Thread: Ancient I1 samples list and discussion
Post: RE: Ancient I1 samples list and discussion
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Moeca
The Italian Alpine tribes and lands where the last place the Romans conquered in modern Italy....................below liink lists the tribes they conquered and other info
The Alpi... |
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Kaltmeister |
I1-M253
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03-08-2024, 07:40 PM |
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Thread: Ancient I1 samples list and discussion
Post: RE: Ancient I1 samples list and discussion
| This area in northern Italy became Roman quite late: after the Punic Wars, but not much later than 200 BC. I have no idea how long it took to romanize these people, that is how much longer we can spea... |
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I1-M253
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