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Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283
| Hvar was an ancient Greek colony, which later became a Roman colony. It wasn't an Illyrian settlement which became a Roman city.
It can't be expected to be similar to a typical Illyrian settlement. |
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J2b-M12
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05-18-2024, 10:07 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from the FTDNA Data Base
Post: RE: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from...
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targaryen Wrote: (05-17-2024, 08:07 PM)
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New samples in the island of Hvar in Croatia during Late Antiquity. 1 J2b2 and a bunch of EV13s and J2as.
E-V13s are all over Roman Croatia.
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It's ab... |
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E1b1b-M215
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05-17-2024, 08:45 PM |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
Post: RE: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ON...
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jfdelajara Wrote: (05-17-2024, 07:52 PM)
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elflock Wrote: (05-17-2024, 06:00 PM)
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They Wrote: (05-16-2024, 02:34 PM)
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Riverman
I agree, but this local population seems to be particularly Aege... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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05-17-2024, 08:32 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from the FTDNA Data Base
Post: RE: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from...
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Vinitharya Wrote: (05-17-2024, 06:39 PM)
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So apparently some of the E-V13 in England is from La Tène Celts and not just Illyrian soldiers from Roman times.
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There is no evidence for pre-Roman E... |
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E1b1b-M215
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05-17-2024, 08:11 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from the FTDNA Data Base
Post: RE: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from...
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Riverman Wrote: (05-12-2024, 04:31 PM)
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There is no alternative group I know of which correlates that well with this pattern we can deduce from modern E-V13 testers.
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For modern E-V13 testers, ... |
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E1b1b-M215
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05-17-2024, 08:06 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Riverman Wrote: (04-30-2024, 10:26 AM)
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corrigendum Wrote: (04-30-2024, 10:02 AM)
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Capsian20 Wrote: (04-30-2024, 09:59 AM)
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This subclade (E-S3003) in Germany its seems to me source this subc... |
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04-30-2024, 12:12 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Capsian20 Wrote: (04-30-2024, 09:59 AM)
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This subclade (E-S3003) in Germany its seems to me source this subclade they are slavic
This sample ancient KRA005 it back a medieval germany cultural had... |
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E1b1b-M215
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04-30-2024, 10:02 AM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Riverman Wrote: (04-30-2024, 09:16 AM)
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The Southern shifted samples are from the Pre- to Proto-Slavic stage, in the Proto-/Early Slavic stage, E-V13 was in the Slavic root groups already.
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He ... |
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E1b1b-M215
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04-30-2024, 09:35 AM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Riverman Wrote: (04-30-2024, 08:43 AM)
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This proves unambiguously that within the Slavic speaking sphere, E-V13 was spread by early Slavs, regardless of where they have picked it up first.
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No,... |
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04-30-2024, 08:58 AM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Riverman Wrote: (04-28-2024, 10:54 AM)
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It is general consensus that the Phrygians lived up to the Bronze Age collpase, Transitional Period, when Channelled Ware came down from the Carpatho-Danube ... |
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04-28-2024, 11:11 AM |
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Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283
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Ushta Wrote: (04-27-2024, 02:00 PM)
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A description of the earliest southwestern-most detected Yamnaya steppe mounds, found in EBA Çinamak (Northern Albania), was given in the conference The Transfo... |
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J2b-M12
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04-28-2024, 10:39 AM |
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Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283
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Ushta Wrote: (04-28-2024, 09:22 AM)
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You stated "You will be disapointed when J-L283 will be found in Rinaldone or when some J-Z622 will be found in Los-Millares", if it will be found there in the ... |
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J2b-M12
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04-28-2024, 10:07 AM |
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Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283
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La Tene Wrote: (04-25-2024, 08:54 AM)
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I'm struggling to understand the impact of "yamnaya" in italy. The paper uses the term "yamnaya" a lot but it seems to me the they actually mean Yamnaya+cw+bb... |
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04-27-2024, 01:23 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Riverman Wrote: (04-22-2024, 05:41 PM)
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I'm also looking forward to this paper I posted about before:
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CONTRASTING GENETIC IMPACTS OF EASTERN MIGRANTS ON EARLY IRON AGE COMMUNITIES... |
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E1b1b-M215
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04-24-2024, 09:33 PM |
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Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283
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GHurier Wrote: (04-24-2024, 03:34 PM)
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J-Z585/J-Z2509 diversity is for modern and ancient DNA centered around the Tyrrhenian sea with a ~3500/3100 BCE signal.
Around these dates, the major event we... |
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04-24-2024, 09:07 PM |
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Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283
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Vigan18 Wrote: (04-22-2024, 10:17 AM)
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Do you have information about Y22894
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As elflock wrote, Y22894 is a descendant subclade of Z1043, which has been found so far predominantly in the Balkans... |
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04-24-2024, 09:01 PM |
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Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283
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GHurier Wrote: (04-23-2024, 08:01 PM)
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Most-likely road since J-L283 :
J-L283 : Maykop-culture (Caucasus), 1 basal sample found from ~2000 BCE in the Caucasus with typically Maykop/Kura-Araxes admi... |
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04-24-2024, 08:58 PM |
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Thread: Roman Imperial-era individuals from Histria
Post: RE: Roman Imperial-era individuals from Histria
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rafc Wrote: (04-20-2024, 08:00 PM)
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Two of the samples seem very East-Med, not very surprising off course. One sample plots exactly as the EIA MJ-12 (UKR_Cimmerian_o) and LIA Scy197 (Scythian_MDA) ... |
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04-21-2024, 12:21 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Kelmendasi Wrote: (04-21-2024, 10:31 AM)
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Messapii (Μεσσάπιοι) was an exonym given to the Iapygians by the Greeks. It is derived from messos ('middle') + -apia ('water') and similar toponyms are fo... |
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04-21-2024, 12:18 PM |
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Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283
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Polska Wrote: (04-19-2024, 03:14 AM)
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As far as J2b L283 origins:
-Not Bronze Age pirates from the Mediterranean who invaded the eastern Adriatic shoreline.
-Not mythical Black Sea Sky Pirates ... |
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04-20-2024, 05:03 PM |
