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    Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283

elflock Wrote: (Yesterday, 09:08 AM) -- targaryen Wrote: (Yesterday, 09:02 AM) -- Every single one of those Y-Dnas has been in the Balkans since the Neolithic.  -- They have absolutely not. So we'r...
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J2b-M12 214 12,878 Yesterday, 06:39 PM
    Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283

elflock Wrote: (Yesterday, 07:06 AM) -- targaryen Wrote: (Yesterday, 12:31 AM) -- elflock Wrote: (05-18-2024, 09:15 PM) -- @targaryen You're putting words in my mouth. Besides, what you're writing ...
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targaryen
J2b-M12 214 12,878 Yesterday, 09:02 AM
    Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283

Moeca Wrote: (Yesterday, 03:19 AM) -- targaryen Wrote: (Yesterday, 03:12 AM) -- Moeca Wrote: (Yesterday, 02:13 AM) -- Pharos ( Hvar ) was fully Greek from aegean island of Paros from the 6th Centur...
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targaryen
J2b-M12 214 12,878 Yesterday, 03:24 AM
    Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283

Moeca Wrote: (Yesterday, 02:13 AM) -- targaryen Wrote: (Yesterday, 12:34 AM) -- corrigendum Wrote: (05-18-2024, 10:07 PM) -- Hvar was an ancient Greek colony, which later became a Roman colony. It ...
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targaryen
J2b-M12 214 12,878 Yesterday, 03:12 AM
    Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283

corrigendum Wrote: (05-18-2024, 10:07 PM) -- Hvar was an ancient Greek colony, which later became a Roman colony. It wasn't an Illyrian settlement which became a Roman city. It can't be expected to ...
targaryen
targaryen
J2b-M12 214 12,878 Yesterday, 12:34 AM
    Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283

elflock Wrote: (05-18-2024, 09:15 PM) -- @targaryen You're putting words in my mouth. Besides, what you're writing is not a counterargument but whataboutism. -- The researchers modelled a lot of tho...
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targaryen
J2b-M12 214 12,878 Yesterday, 12:31 AM
    Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283

elflock Wrote: (05-18-2024, 03:13 AM) -- targaryen Wrote: (05-18-2024, 02:01 AM) -- slamberty Wrote: (05-18-2024, 12:58 AM) -- New bioRxiv paper on late antiquity Dalmatian island Hvar. Roman media...
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targaryen
J2b-M12 214 12,878 05-18-2024, 08:46 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Jaska Wrote: (05-17-2024, 10:44 PM) -- Alanarchae Wrote: -- For me there are too many things that fit well a western entry c.3000BC to be coincidence. And I accept there may have been some gene flow...
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targaryen
Ancient (aDNA) 291 21,778 05-18-2024, 02:05 AM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Jaska Wrote: (05-17-2024, 10:58 PM) -- Targaryen Wrote: -- Yamnaya literally means "Pit Grave". If this type of burial was not distinctive to them, they would not use that name. -- No, the logic d...
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Ancient (aDNA) 291 21,778 05-18-2024, 02:03 AM
    Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283

slamberty Wrote: (05-18-2024, 12:58 AM) -- New bioRxiv paper on late antiquity Dalmatian island Hvar. Roman mediated Middle Eastern J1a and J2a-M410 hub.  Also clear once again that the African deriv...
targaryen
targaryen
J2b-M12 214 12,878 05-18-2024, 02:01 AM
    Thread: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from the FTDNA Data Base
Post: RE: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from...

Riverman Wrote: (05-17-2024, 08:59 PM) -- targaryen Wrote: (05-17-2024, 08:07 PM) -- New samples in the island of Hvar in Croatia during Late Antiquity. 1 J2b2 and a bunch of EV13s and J2as. E-V1...
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E1b1b-M215 20 707 05-17-2024, 10:08 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Ffoucart Wrote: (05-17-2024, 07:12 AM) -- targaryen Wrote: (05-16-2024, 06:03 PM) -- Kurgans are Yamnaya... Anatolian is pre-Yamnaya by at least 1000 years. You might have some primitive form of it,...
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targaryen
Ancient (aDNA) 291 21,778 05-17-2024, 08:13 PM
    Thread: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from the FTDNA Data Base
Post: RE: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from...

New samples in the island of Hvar in Croatia during Late Antiquity. 1 J2b2 and a bunch of EV13s and J2as. E-V13s are all over Roman Croatia.
targaryen
targaryen
E1b1b-M215 20 707 05-17-2024, 08:07 PM
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

R.Rocca Wrote: (05-16-2024, 12:42 AM) -- ArmandoR1b Wrote: (05-15-2024, 12:05 AM) -- targaryen Wrote: (05-14-2024, 09:05 PM) -- This nonsense in particular that has been debunked by Reich, Anthony ...
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R1b-L51 409 14,716 05-16-2024, 08:31 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

alanarchae Wrote: (05-16-2024, 11:55 AM) -- Having done a chunk of reading into the archaeology of Turkey in the c.3500-2000BC era  over the last few days (and some from linguists) I still strongly f...
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Ancient (aDNA) 291 21,778 05-16-2024, 06:03 PM
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

R.Rocca Wrote: (05-14-2024, 08:35 PM) -- targaryen Wrote: (05-14-2024, 01:43 PM) -- R.Rocca Wrote: (05-14-2024, 11:56 AM) -- What exact part of the Papac paper was “poor analysis”? -- Absence of ...
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targaryen
R1b-L51 409 14,716 05-14-2024, 09:05 PM
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

R.Rocca Wrote: (05-14-2024, 11:56 AM) -- targaryen Wrote: (05-13-2024, 09:15 PM) -- rmstevens2 Wrote: (05-13-2024, 09:04 PM) -- It's frustrating how the ancient DNA research has gone. In some ways,...
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R1b-L51 409 14,716 05-14-2024, 01:43 PM
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

RBHeadge Wrote: (05-13-2024, 11:45 PM) -- What was the population of the Steppe circa 4th millennia BCE? Has anyone ever tried to quantify it? -- Probably somewhere in the tens of thousands, which ...
targaryen
targaryen
R1b-L51 409 14,716 05-14-2024, 05:41 AM
    Thread: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?
Post: RE: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?

rmstevens2 Wrote: (05-13-2024, 08:30 PM) -- targaryen Wrote: (05-13-2024, 08:22 PM) -- My point is that I don't think all the EEF in CW is from Ukraine/steppes. Some of it is local Polish GACs. -- ...
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R1a 14 374 05-13-2024, 09:18 PM
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

rmstevens2 Wrote: (05-13-2024, 09:04 PM) -- It's frustrating how the ancient DNA research has gone. In some ways, it has been good. In 2017, the Olalde et al Beaker preprint appeared, which was the d...
targaryen
targaryen
R1b-L51 409 14,716 05-13-2024, 09:15 PM