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Thread: Qpgraph of Eurasian AMH dispersion
Post: RE: Qpgraph of Eurasian AMH dispersion
I have recently heard that f4(Chimp, Papuan; Tianyuan, EA/AR19K) is not significant, while f4(Chimp, Papuan; Tianyuan, Onge) is significant. So the phylogenetic structure of ENA may not be simply Sout... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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05-15-2024, 03:43 AM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
IIRC in AG before, Agamemnon mentioned that Afroasiatic is more related to Niger-Congo, and the situation fits the phylogeny of E1b1. In my knowledge, Afroasiatic is not closely related to potential A... |
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05-01-2024, 09:53 AM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
Kale Wrote: (04-29-2024, 04:24 AM)
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Jerome Wrote: (04-28-2024, 01:29 PM)
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It seems to be an interesting concept combined with Haplogroup G in iran_n(First split in GHIJK,Formed 47K BC),I don't k... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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04-29-2024, 11:53 AM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
Latitude may truely distinguish the Ust-Goyet lineage and East Eurasian lineage. But I think that their common ancestor (Crown/C-K meta population) arose in eastern Iran Plateau. Anyway, AASI and Aust... |
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04-24-2024, 12:06 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
rmstevens2 Wrote: (04-24-2024, 12:59 AM)
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Remember this map from the 2020 Nordqvist and Heyd paper, "The Forgotten Child of the Wider Corded Ware Family: Russian Fatyanovo Culture in Context"?
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R1b-L51
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04-24-2024, 01:47 AM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
theplayer Wrote: (04-23-2024, 11:32 AM)
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Kale Wrote: (04-23-2024, 04:41 AM)
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My current hypothesis regarding Dzudzuana
1) Goyet/Fournol represent unadmixed 'West Eurasians'
2) Post-CI Eastern Eu... |
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04-23-2024, 11:51 AM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
rmstevens2 Wrote: (04-23-2024, 01:13 AM)
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targaryen Wrote: (04-22-2024, 10:56 PM)
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rmstevens2 Wrote: (04-22-2024, 10:17 PM)
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I made a Google map of these new Yamnaya R1b-L51/L52 samples. If i... |
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R1b-L51
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04-23-2024, 02:38 AM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
Merriku Wrote: (04-22-2024, 07:11 PM)
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Norfern-Ostrobothnian Wrote: (04-22-2024, 07:00 PM)
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I highly doubt that there are truly ancestral forms of any haplogroup in the present day, because that... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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04-23-2024, 12:23 AM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
@Jerome @Merriku
A phylogeny tree of H (time based on ftdna or Yfull)
H (L901) (45k/45.6k)
H2-P96 (Near East)
H1'3-M2826 (45k/43.1k)
H1-L902 (41k)
H1a-M69 (39k/38.7k, South Asi... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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04-22-2024, 07:40 AM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Except the average 73-year gap of R1b and R1a in CW Bohemia, early CW R1as in central Europe are mainly M417xZ645. According to ftdna, Z645(PF6162) split from M417* at around 3,400BCE, which may be pr... |
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04-20-2024, 03:12 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
The chronology of Afanasievo split is before 3,300BC, and L52 is in it. It seems that L51 and L52 had diversified earlier on the PC steppe, and the Yamnaya samples may indeed not the direct ancestor o... |
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04-20-2024, 04:10 AM |
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Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283
https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?tid=746
Now 4 L51 samples are also mentioned in Yamnaya. So L51 may also represent a movement from the steppe in an earlier stage.
From my point of view, Balk... |
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J2b-M12
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04-20-2024, 01:27 AM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
@rmstevens2
Thank you! By the way, are there any BAM files now and when can there samples be analyzed on ftdna? |
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04-20-2024, 12:39 AM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
@Merriku
Where do you think H1 diverged from H2? I guess Makran coast or lower Indus, with one headed Southeast while another West. |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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04-19-2024, 10:56 PM |
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Thread: J2b-L283
Post: RE: J2b-L283
1. Did different CW ancestors (such as L151 and Z93) form one clan between 3,500-3,000 BC, or they were different clans (mutual competition) on one population horizon?
2. Compared to the early CW in ... |
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J2b-M12
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04-19-2024, 04:08 PM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
alchemist223 Wrote: (04-18-2024, 05:34 PM)
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Desdonas Wrote: (04-09-2024, 03:19 AM)
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@Kale @kolompar
What do you think of India as a hub for early Eurasian population? I have seen that many hapl... |
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04-19-2024, 03:47 AM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
@kolompar
Another issue shouldn't be ignored in the rapid OoA theory is that whether the ancestor of Eurasians once had some leaders during 65-55/50k. On one hand, there may be almost no communicatio... |
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04-16-2024, 12:44 AM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
kolompar Wrote: (04-10-2024, 09:53 PM)
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Desdonas Wrote: (04-09-2024, 03:19 AM)
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@Kale @kolompar
What do you think of India as a hub for early Eurasian population? I have seen that many haplogro... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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04-11-2024, 01:22 AM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
Southpaw Wrote: (04-10-2024, 11:29 AM)
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Jerome Wrote: (04-10-2024, 02:14 AM)
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Southpaw Wrote: (04-09-2024, 12:32 PM)
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Hey all what do you guys make of of the model from Lazaridis where ANA (A... |
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04-10-2024, 12:47 PM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
pelop Wrote: (04-09-2024, 04:23 PM)
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Merriku Wrote: (04-09-2024, 09:17 AM)
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I am skeptical of those Indian Fs. Considering the amount of Indian private samples I think F should have turned up by... |
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04-09-2024, 05:21 PM |