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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| as a side note
during all those years I came up with models of every kind of population. from big genetic clusters( CHG, ANE ecc...) to fine tuned populations ( France Iron Age ecc....) there is on... |
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05-18-2024, 01:47 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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targaryen Wrote: (05-12-2024, 04:48 AM)
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We have IBD between CLVs in the steppe and those Central Anatolian samples. That seals the deal. Proto-Anatolians were CLVs who mixed with Mesopotamians and... |
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05-12-2024, 07:22 AM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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rmstevens2 Wrote: (05-11-2024, 10:14 PM)
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old europe Wrote: (05-11-2024, 08:33 PM)
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That is a very good news indeed. I can’t wait for Eurogenes to weigh in on the recent harward paper. When this... |
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05-12-2024, 07:07 AM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
| That is a very good news indeed. I can’t wait for Eurogenes to weigh in on the recent harward paper. When this will happen Lazaridis and Reich flee or take shelter |
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05-11-2024, 08:33 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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jdean Wrote: (05-11-2024, 08:00 PM)
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Great, Alwin Kloekhorst's Proto-Indo-Anatolian, the “Anatolian split” and the “Anatolian trek” (https://scholarlypublications.universiteitleiden.nl/access/item%... |
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05-11-2024, 08:04 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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pelop Wrote: (05-11-2024, 03:53 PM)
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old europe Wrote: (05-11-2024, 02:33 PM)
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pelop Wrote: (05-11-2024, 02:16 PM)
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The problem with this argument is that I-L699 also became virtually non-exi... |
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05-11-2024, 04:38 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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pelop Wrote: (05-11-2024, 02:16 PM)
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old europe Wrote: (05-08-2024, 07:54 AM)
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There are also questions with the uniparentals. If CLV is the PIA genetic cluster you would expect R1bV1636 to pop... |
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05-11-2024, 02:33 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| we now know the exact reason why anatolian languages were outliers among IE.
1) It is because they were spoken by populations rooted in the Progress cluster that was IEzed by the Ukraine neolithic ... |
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05-08-2024, 04:51 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Kale Wrote: (05-08-2024, 04:13 PM)
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I think the burden of proof would be on showing CHG still existed at the formation of Yamnaya. Same setup...
Yamnaya_Samara
RUS_Stavropol_Progress_Eneolithic ... |
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05-08-2024, 04:39 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Kale Wrote: (05-08-2024, 03:51 PM)
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old europe Wrote: (05-08-2024, 07:54 AM)
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Target: RUS_Progress_LN: PG2004
Distance: 4.8991% / 0.04899101 | R5P
58.8 Russia_N_Golubaya_Krinitsa_Lower_Don
23... |
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05-08-2024, 03:55 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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targaryen Wrote: (05-08-2024, 06:31 AM)
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It seems like the Caucasus region, including the area north and south of it, were a major crossroads between different civilizations in antiquity. No surpri... |
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05-08-2024, 07:54 AM |
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Thread: I2 in Yamnaya
Post: RE: I2 in Yamnaya
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Kaltmeister Wrote: (05-05-2024, 04:27 PM)
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Mithra Wrote: (05-05-2024, 02:59 PM)
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Sephesakueu Wrote: (05-05-2024, 01:30 PM)
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The possibility that Indo european languages may have origins among... |
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05-05-2024, 07:15 PM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
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Jerome Wrote: (04-30-2024, 05:38 AM)
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Hammas Wrote: (04-29-2024, 06:21 PM)
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Can you model Pinarbasi with the same model? I want to see if they have the same Onge related ancestry since they can ... |
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04-30-2024, 06:23 AM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
| a take from Lazaridis et al 2024
Uncertainty about where, exactly, within the territory of the Serednii Stih culture the ancestors of the Core Yamnaya lived contrasts with their expansive distribut... |
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04-30-2024, 04:08 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| courtesy of eurogenes a possible model for the western route for anatolian languages
left pops:
Turkey_OldHittitePeriod.SG1
Turkey_Buyukkaya_EC
"CernavodaB" (lower steppe, higher UkrN/ EEF)
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04-28-2024, 02:31 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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Vinitharya Wrote: (04-26-2024, 09:22 PM)
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There was R1a in Sredny Stog, sample I6561, dated to 3500 BC, and another one in Deriivka, dated 7000 BC to 6700 BC, so we can dispense with the conceit th... |
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04-26-2024, 09:30 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
| we have a R1a M 417 in Bulgaria circa 4000 BC. He is considered a proto yamnaya
Autosomal
80% Usatovo
20% WHG
We need to check if in 4000 BC WHG were still present in Bulgaria otherwise the... |
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04-26-2024, 03:40 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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04-26-2024, 03:19 PM |
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Thread: The 4th/3rd Millennium BC in the Caucasus and Beyond - Bioarchaeology of Innovations
Post: RE: The 4th/3rd Millennium BC in the Caucasus and ...
| https://www.youtube.com/live/P4S10jfPWoc?si=OPzlWexaKooJq_9V
talk on Yamnaya |
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04-25-2024, 07:50 AM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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Kale Wrote: (04-24-2024, 03:45 PM)
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old europe Wrote: (04-24-2024, 03:42 PM)
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the first PIE in the Smydovo sample is the 039 one or the 078?
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Romania_PIE_CA is the main cluster grouped toget... |
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