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Thread: Ancient Egyptians
Post: RE: Ancient Egyptians
| The dynastic Ancient Egyptians whose Y-DNA haplogroups were released/leaked so far have been all over the place. Nakht-Ankh was reported as Y-DNA H2, Djehutynakht as the European G2a (if that's not c... |
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05-09-2024, 06:14 PM |
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Thread: Ancient Egyptians
Post: RE: Ancient Egyptians
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Qrts Wrote: (05-08-2024, 07:12 PM)
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Chalcolithic Iranian admixture through late Ghassulians is plausible but not the main source of the shift. The main change we will see is going to be Levant-like... |
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05-08-2024, 11:45 PM |
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Thread: Ancient Egyptians
Post: RE: Ancient Egyptians
| Around 4500 BC there were still surprisingly few farming communities in Egypt (compared to even Europe, to say nothing of the Near East). The region was probably dominated by pastoralists. The Green S... |
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05-08-2024, 06:44 PM |
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Thread: Ancient Egyptians
Post: RE: Ancient Egyptians
| One paper that had access to a neolithic Egyptian sample described it as pretty much a straightforward Natufian pastoralist, if I remember correctly. Those Bronze Age Egyptians were just a mixture of ... |
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05-07-2024, 06:39 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| Looks like Allentoft was way off. There were no mesolithic CHG's trekking to the Middle Don region in the Neolithic.
Instead, there were neolithic pastoralists (a CHG/EHG/Central Asian mixture) ex... |
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Woz |
Ancient (aDNA)
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04-24-2024, 10:31 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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billh Wrote: (04-24-2024, 12:47 AM)
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The cline emphasis seems very contrived. Modeling populations as having admixture "from a cline" or being descended "from a cline" seems to serve no purpose but... |
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Woz |
Ancient (aDNA)
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04-24-2024, 02:08 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| Progress was predominantly EHG:
Target: RUS_Progress_En:PG2004
Distance: 4.6770% / 0.04676998
48.8 RUS_Samara_HG
24.4 TJK_Sarazm_En
21.0 GEO_CHG
3.6 RUS_Tyumen_HG
2.2 UKR_Meso
Target: RUS_... |
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Woz |
Ancient (aDNA)
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04-19-2024, 08:25 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| PIE was the lingua franca of various eneolithic nomadic pastoralist clans, belonging to diverse subclades of both R1a and R1b, with some Q's and I's and J's and whatnot, but in any case dominated by ... |
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Woz |
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04-19-2024, 06:05 PM |
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Thread: Caucasus EN ancestry in Eneolithic Steppe
Post: RE: Caucasus EN ancestry in Eneolithic Steppe
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Kale Wrote: (03-24-2024, 04:18 PM)
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A sample which doesn't receive enough attention IMO about this and related topics is Bulgaria_Krepost_N (5723-5623 calBCE)
Has ~20% CHG and no discernible Iran_... |
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Woz |
Ancient (aDNA)
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03-25-2024, 12:27 AM |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
Post: RE: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ON...
| I disagree with the map above. There was no such thing as "Early West Eurasian."
European Aurignacians and Gravettians (including Kostenki and Sunghir) were on a cline with Yana_UP, had Salkhit-li... |
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Woz |
Ancient (aDNA)
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03-22-2024, 01:44 AM |
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Thread: Caucasus EN ancestry in Eneolithic Steppe
Post: RE: Caucasus EN ancestry in Eneolithic Steppe
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Gordius Wrote: (03-19-2024, 08:40 PM)
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My personal opinion is that the Caucasus EN is EHG and Ukrainian HG + CHG, with prevailing CHG. In Yamnaya and Sredniy Stog cultures, the CHG component is les... |
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Woz |
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03-19-2024, 10:16 PM |
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Thread: Caucasus EN ancestry in Eneolithic Steppe
Post: RE: Caucasus EN ancestry in Eneolithic Steppe
| Davidski wants the PIE homeland to be in Ukraine. The idea that it was spread across Southern Russia and Ukraine by nomadic pastoralists originating somewhere close to the Caucasus/the circum-Caspian ... |
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Woz |
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03-19-2024, 08:07 PM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
| The affinity for Zlaty Kun in Iranian HG's is likely from their Baradostian ancestry, which we don't have samples of, and which is not Zlaty Kun, just some early branch of Eurasians. Perhaps this is w... |
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Woz |
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03-18-2024, 06:19 PM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
| There is no such thing as "Basal Eurasian" as originally formulated. There's "Ancient North African", the component that represents about 40% of the ancestry of the Iberomaurusians and around 10-15% o... |
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Woz |
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03-17-2024, 06:59 PM |
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Thread: Here's a dumb question
Post: RE: Here's a dumb question
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Norfern-Ostrobothnian Wrote: (03-08-2024, 04:30 PM)
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Modeling UP Europeans in G25 with populations that are younger than them is very anachronistic and not going to produce any realistic results.
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Woz |
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03-08-2024, 06:45 PM |
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Thread: Here's a dumb question
Post: RE: Here's a dumb question
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old europe Wrote: (03-08-2024, 03:56 AM)
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I think you got it the wrong way. It is ANE /ANS that has Aurignacian/gravettian ancestry
This is obvious looking at uniparentals.
Mostly female dna fr... |
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Woz |
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03-08-2024, 06:41 PM |
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Thread: Here's a dumb question
Post: RE: Here's a dumb question
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old europe Wrote: (03-08-2024, 12:26 AM)
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How much proto ANE there is in gravettians?
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Target: ITA_Ostuni1_HG
Distance: 3.8057% / 0.03805698
34.4 WHG
33.4 RUS_Yana_UP
17.6 Levant_Natufian_E... |
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Woz |
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03-08-2024, 03:19 AM |
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Thread: Here's a dumb question
Post: RE: Here's a dumb question
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Norfern-Ostrobothnian Wrote: (03-07-2024, 08:37 PM)
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WHG definitely has Gravettian ancestry. I think they are about 30 % Gravettian, half whatever West Eurasian is in Dzudzuana without its Basal Eu... |
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Woz |
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03-07-2024, 11:56 PM |
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Thread: Here's a dumb question
Post: RE: Here's a dumb question
| The problem with placing proto-WHG's in Italy or the Balkans is that we have more or less standard Gravettians in those areas before the LGM (Ostuni, Bacho Kiro), and WHG's are not descended from the ... |
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Woz |
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03-07-2024, 07:22 PM |
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Thread: Here's a dumb question
Post: RE: Here's a dumb question
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TanTin Wrote: (03-06-2024, 10:17 PM)
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Loschbour man is a recent one, just 6000 BC. All other WHG are in one way or another similar to Loschbour, but you are not going to find the "original" WHG ... |
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