New update (2023)

[Kale]

Slightly off topic, but since we don't have a Gedmatch thread, I wonder, how does AncestryDNA kit compare to 23andme kit on Gedmatch calculators?

[AimSmall]

Slightly off topic, but since we don't have a Gedmatch thread, I wonder, how does AncestryDNA kit compare to 23andme kit on Gedmatch calculators?

23&Me v5 generally sucks.  The overlap really isn't there.

https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_SNP_comparison_chart

[Rufus191]

Slightly off topic, but since we don't have a Gedmatch thread, I wonder, how does AncestryDNA kit compare to 23andme kit on Gedmatch calculators?

23&Me v5 generally sucks.  The overlap really isn't there.

https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_SNP_comparison_chart

Correct, as I laid out on several threads on Anthrogenica . The same applies to FTDNA and Myheritage kits post 2019- which are all GSA chip based, and 23andme from 2017. Basically the matches below about 50cM on GEDMATCH for all GSA kits are majority false matches. So if you want any kind of quite accurate matching, of commercial kits Ancestry is the best you can currently get, of specialist full genome sequencing kits, they will give you a GEDMATCH file which matches the original SNPs the database was based on (original FTDNA kit) but that's going to be several hundred dollars/pounds at least.

[Kale]

Slightly off topic, but since we don't have a Gedmatch thread, I wonder, how does AncestryDNA kit compare to 23andme kit on Gedmatch calculators?

Following up on this since I just got around to uploading Ancestry to Gedmatch. For the calculators and Oracles (Eurogenes V13, K36, etc.), 23andmeV5 and Ancestry (I think I did it in 2022?) produced extremely similar results. Which is rather unfortunate because they are both wrong (for example on Eurogenes V13 mom and I both have impossibly low West Asian, which appears to have all dumped into East-Med. Not sure how that effects the other components).

[AimSmall]

For my kits, 23&Me sucks.  Not enough overlap in the covered SNPs.  23&Me likes to test different SNPs for their "medical" insights.

K13
AncestryDNA
SNPs used: 172,294 - SNPs in Calculator: 182,705 - Genotype ratio: 94.30%
23&Me v5
SNPs used: 59,077 - SNPs in Calculator: 182,705 - Genotype ratio: 32.33%


K36
AncestryDNA
SNPs used: 155,228 - SNPs in Calculator: 165,688 - Genotype ratio: 93.69%
23&Me v5
SNPs used: 52,532 - SNPs in Calculator: 165,688 - Genotype ratio: 31.71%

[Capsian20]

For my kits, 23&Me sucks.  Not enough overlap in the covered SNPs.  23&Me likes to test different SNPs for their "medical" insights.

K13
AncestryDNA
SNPs used: 172,294 - SNPs in Calculator: 182,705 - Genotype ratio: 94.30%
23&Me v5
SNPs used: 59,077 - SNPs in Calculator: 182,705 - Genotype ratio: 32.33%


K36
AncestryDNA
SNPs used: 155,228 - SNPs in Calculator: 165,688 - Genotype ratio: 93.69%
23&Me v5
SNPs used: 52,532 - SNPs in Calculator: 165,688 - Genotype ratio: 31.71%

oh so sim_scaled 23andME not good and have few SNP according you posted

[ChrisR]

K13
AncestryDNA SNPs used: 172,294 - SNPs in Calculator: 182,705 - Genotype ratio: 94.30%
23&Me v5 SNPs used: 59,077 - SNPs in Calculator: 182,705 - Genotype ratio: 32.33%

K36
AncestryDNA SNPs used: 155,228 - SNPs in Calculator: 165,688 - Genotype ratio: 93.69%
23&Me v5 SNPs used: 52,532 - SNPs in Calculator: 165,688 - Genotype ratio: 31.71%

Allways good to have this type of stats at hand. I know G25 uses ~300,000 SNPs, but have no stats how much overlap of them is in the standard tests.
Is there a public list of all usual SNP-Chip tests and their coverage/overlap for G25, K13, K36, etc.?

[AimSmall]

This has chip overlap...

https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_SNP_comparison_chart


I think only Davidski could tell you about G25 SNP overlap.

[Fortenbras]

[Running4Borders]

Had a new community/subcommunity appear at some point over the last 6 weeks or so. Am now officially NW Transcarpathia & Eastern Szabolcs. Feels amazing. That's from my mom's dad who was the son of immigrants from NE Hungary. Almost interesting that that's the part of the world, broadly speaking, that I'm betting my Greek-mediated Y chromosome was floating around for a very long time, somewhere around the Tisza. Or could be a source of my bias toward that hypothesis come to think of it. Very close to making this post about my Y chromosome.

I think said grandpa must have had a little extra Romanian (could be Serbian or maybe Croatian) ancestry, he was from a Byzantine Catholic background that involved a good number of Romanians and Ruthenians and Serbs. My mom has 20% Balkan showing on her Ancestry report and I usually see 25-35% misc. Balkan groups show up in tailored g25 runs that can't be purely due to my Greek great granddad.

[boiler20100203]

I received several deeper GCs today: Northern and Northwestern Pomerania - my direct paternal location. I keep checking to see if my maternal line (France) will show, maybe one day. Just not enough testers/matches.

[boiler20100203]

I noticed my wife's communities were knocked down from 6 with sublocations to 1 with a sublocation: Eastern Kentucky and West Virginia Settlers with Southern West Virginia Settlers. There was a lot of overlap with Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee and West Virginia - basically Appalachia.

My grandfather lost Ukraine and Belarus subregions under EE, now he has only Russia. Seems correct in case too.

My dad's 1Cs have Central and Southern Sweden with Halland - doesn't seem like it has been picked up by the next generation of us cousins yet. My dad's paternal 1Cs don't have Pomerania either, odd that I ended up with it so far; I figured being a generation further removed would hinder those odds, similar to my thoughts on Sweden .

[boiler20100203]

They changed the title of Russians in Eastern Europe to Russians in Eastern and Central Europe, just noticed that.

[Jalisciense]

They changed the title of Russians in Eastern Europe to Russians in Eastern and Central Europe, just noticed that.

Russians in Central Europe? Do they refer to the diaspora?

[boiler20100203]

They changed the title of Russians in Eastern Europe to Russians in Eastern and Central Europe, just noticed that.

Russians in Central Europe? Do they refer to the diaspora?

Not necessarily or maybe indirectly. They mention Catherine the Great and the Russian expansion into Belarus, Poland, Lithuania and elsewhere in Central Europe. That’s in the 1750 tab. 

But that wasn’t new, I recall that statement for as long as I’ve had this GC. The other eras are unchanged as well - Russification, poverty, Tsars, War of 1812, Stalin’s rise, Bolshevik Revolution,  etc…