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Interesting EAA 2024 session...

Old Stories and New Data on Slavs. How to Interpret the Genetic, Linguistic and Subsistence Shifts in Early Medieval Europe?

Recently, new data from archaeogenetic research suggest a demographic shift at the beginning of the Early Middle Ages in Central, Southeastern and Eastern Europe. This is supported by new analyses of subsistence (via isotopes and lipids). Archaeologists have noted these changes much earlier, not only in specific parts of material culture (e.g. pottery) but more recently also in large archaeological datasets analysed by machine learning methods. Also, a linguistic change in this period is traditionally posited from linguistic research. All these developments are inevitably linked to a long-standing debate in anthropology, history and archaeology: the migration of the Slavs. According to some written sources (e.g. Procopius, Jordanes), the appearance of Slavic-speaking groups or people with specific habitus (housing, subsistence, social system, economy etc.) should have been the final dramatic act in the highly dynamic Migration Period. Indeed, at some point, a vast part of Europe became Slavic-speaking rather than Germanic-speaking. However, the question of how and when this change actually took place remains unresolved. Indeed, local indigenous communities may have 'become' Slavic not through migration but through language shift and acculturation.
While this debate has recently slowed down due to a lack of new data and the reinforcement of existing positions, new information from other methods is reopening it. In this session, we are looking for papers that bring new archaeological, historical, linguistic, genetic or bioarchaeological data to the discussion of the putative migration and ethnogenesis of the Slavs. We try to reflect the old stories in the light of new scientific data. The integration of results from all disciplines is necessary to grasp this complex question and also to guide further research in related fields.

Main organisers: Jiri Machacek
Co-organiser: Zuzana Hofmanova

https://submissions.e-a-a.org/eaa2024/re...ession=395
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(10-07-2023, 10:13 PM)FR9CZ6 Wrote: As a result of the Slavic migrations 9-11th century individuals show a very strong Northeast European admixture

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EAA 2024 abstract...

„What have the Romans ever done for us?” Multi isotope dataset from Late Antique and Early Medieval Slovenia

In recent decades, isotope research in bioarchaeology has described a very distinctive arc. A promising and revolutionary discipline in the early 2000s, it has gradually shown its potential over the past decades. However, as the technology became more mature by the 2020s, its limitations became increasingly apparent. In this process, in which isotope studies have sought links with archaeology and other bioarchaeological methods, the Central and Eastern European region has unfortunately only taken a limited part. In the present study, we aim to add to the hitherto modest knowledge base with more than 200 Sr and more than 300 C/N data from three Slovenian regions, namely the areas including Ljubljana and Celje and the Vipava River Valley, and to open new perspectives for joint paleogenomic, archaeological and cultural-historical interpretation.
Our results, although limited in themselves, combined with the results of genomic analysis, support a narrative that reconstructs the continued existence of the local population in the nearby highland settlements as the late Roman centres in present-day Slovenia were depopulated following the decline of Roman rule. On one side, evidence for this is provided by the homogeneity of human Sr data, the narrower local Sr baselines, which rather indicate a great difference in land use and nutrition habits than the arrival of new incomers. On the other side, the relatively large size of pedigrees with few unrelated individuals and the decline in genetic diversity support this reconstruction. Later, during the 9th and 10th centuries, the Sr isotopic distribution became more heterogeneous with some individuals yielding more various Sr signals and increased mobility, while a new northeast European genetic component appeared in the sites, supporting the appearance of new populations in the territory.

Norbert Faragó
Tina Milavec
István Koncz
Deven Vyas
Tamara Leskovar
Tivadar Vida
Patrick Geary
Krishna Veeramah

submissions.e-a-a.org/eaa2024/repository/preview.php?Abstract=4233
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These Slavic genomes from the 3-5 and 5-6 centuries are interesting. Where did these genetic Slavs come to Slovenia?

Oh, I already know, definitely from Belarus.
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Are these the new Transdanubian samples from the project or the already existing avar period samples? 

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB72021
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(02-28-2024, 09:59 AM)FR9CZ6 Wrote: Are these the new Transdanubian samples from the project or the already existing avar period samples? 

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB72021

That is a good question.
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(02-29-2024, 03:13 PM)J Man Wrote:
(02-28-2024, 09:59 AM)FR9CZ6 Wrote: Are these the new Transdanubian samples from the project or the already existing avar period samples? 

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB72021

That is a good question.

Well, these are from the Alföld, so I guess they're just the old ones.
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