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(05-22-2024, 08:07 PM)Webb Wrote: I checked the surname report in the Public Haplotree at FTDNA yesterday and today for DF27>CTS4065. Yesterday there were 39 individuals on the report and today there are 41.
Ok I will start tracking U152>Z49. Today it has 40.
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(05-22-2024, 09:46 PM)rmstevens2 Wrote: One of the guys in my maternal grandfather's surname project just got an FF assignment of R1b-M323, which is downstream of R1b-U106.
That's not my maternal grandfather's Y-chromosome line. His is downstream of R1b-Z253. Same surname, different haplogroup.
Funny the Y-DNA diversity among men with my maternal grandfather's surname. It's not a common surname.
Is it occupational? Might explain why.
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(05-22-2024, 10:40 PM)szin Wrote: (05-22-2024, 09:46 PM)rmstevens2 Wrote: One of the guys in my maternal grandfather's surname project just got an FF assignment of R1b-M323, which is downstream of R1b-U106.
That's not my maternal grandfather's Y-chromosome line. His is downstream of R1b-Z253. Same surname, different haplogroup.
Funny the Y-DNA diversity among men with my maternal grandfather's surname. It's not a common surname.
Is it occupational? Might explain why.
No. The surname is Gist, which is thought to come from the old English word for guest.
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I have seen a FF from 2016. Was Batched in Oct 2016.
His test went down to my same SNP-of-Interest as the V3. So I am happy about that. 
Altho.....now that I think of it, I am not happy that the V3 didnt go any further. 
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(05-22-2024, 10:35 PM)Mitchell-Atkins Wrote: (05-22-2024, 08:07 PM)Webb Wrote: I checked the surname report in the Public Haplotree at FTDNA yesterday and today for DF27>CTS4065. Yesterday there were 39 individuals on the report and today there are 41.
Ok I will start tracking U152>Z49. Today it has 40.
I still think that my hunch is correct and the surname additions are due to FF terminal upgrades. I’ll know for sure once the tests from 2016 and older are complete as I have numerous Wilder matches who did FF and 37/67 marker tests around 2012.
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(05-22-2024, 09:21 PM)Riverman Wrote: Is there a branch under E-M35 which doesn't get tested?
I just wonder about the 2.173 testers which are just E-M35. Are they from an untested branch, did they do some sort of old test? Are they being SNP confirmed of some sort? Those kind of skew the statistics a bit, if they still COULD be E-V13.
No they cannot be E-V13, at least from V3 testing. E-M78 and E-V13 were tested on V3. As for V2, idk.
Not sure about Z827. But CTS10298 was tested. Not sure about L19.
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A family finder test that I ordered for somebody in October 2016 received its Y-DNA haplogroup today. I had also ordered Y67 back then and he was sitting at R-M269 all of these years. The new assignment is R-FGC12307.
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(05-23-2024, 02:11 AM)Mabrams Wrote: (05-22-2024, 09:21 PM)Riverman Wrote: Is there a branch under E-M35 which doesn't get tested?
I just wonder about the 2.173 testers which are just E-M35. Are they from an untested branch, did they do some sort of old test? Are they being SNP confirmed of some sort? Those kind of skew the statistics a bit, if they still COULD be E-V13.
No they cannot be E-V13, at least from V3 testing. E-M78 and E-V13 were tested on V3. As for V2, idk.
Not sure about Z827. But CTS10298 was tested. Not sure about L19.
I wonder if they could come from those users which got some sort of backbone SNP confirmation? I remember a couple of cases in the last years in which people got confusing STR results and got a validation by basic SNP testing. Because standard SNP packages just covering M35 would be otherwise unusual I'd say, while at the same time the number is much too small for the general STR-tested population in the data base.
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(05-23-2024, 12:47 AM)Mabrams Wrote: Altho.....now that I think of it, I am not happy that the V3 didnt go any further.
As expected
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Between Sunday morning and this morning they have added 15,907 Y-DNA assignments. 329 are from Big Y.
I think they have done on average 8,347 FF kits per day since May 1.
Can someone else check the counts they have?
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(05-23-2024, 11:56 AM)Riverman Wrote: (05-23-2024, 02:11 AM)Mabrams Wrote: (05-22-2024, 09:21 PM)Riverman Wrote: Is there a branch under E-M35 which doesn't get tested?
I just wonder about the 2.173 testers which are just E-M35. Are they from an untested branch, did they do some sort of old test? Are they being SNP confirmed of some sort? Those kind of skew the statistics a bit, if they still COULD be E-V13.
No they cannot be E-V13, at least from V3 testing. E-M78 and E-V13 were tested on V3. As for V2, idk.
Not sure about Z827. But CTS10298 was tested. Not sure about L19.
I wonder if they could come from those users which got some sort of backbone SNP confirmation? I remember a couple of cases in the last years in which people got confusing STR results and got a validation by basic SNP testing. Because standard SNP packages just covering M35 would be otherwise unusual I'd say, while at the same time the number is much too small for the general STR-tested population in the data base.
The counts have changed. It's best to wait until FTDNA is done with the FF Y-DNA subclade assignments. In the meantime it would be a good idea to go through the spreadsheet and compare what was tested on FF v3 and track which branches under E-M35 have large increases.
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(05-23-2024, 12:24 PM)ArmandoR1b Wrote: Between Sunday morning and this morning they have added 15,907 Y-DNA assignments. 329 are from Big Y.
I think they have done on average 8,347 FF kits per day since May 1.
Can someone else check the counts they have?
I’ll try to remember to check tonight
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(05-22-2024, 08:07 PM)Webb Wrote: I checked the surname report in the Public Haplotree at FTDNA yesterday and today for DF27>CTS4065. Yesterday there were 39 individuals on the report and today there are 41.
CTS4065 now has 47 participants in the surname report on the Public Haplotree up from 41 yesterday.
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(05-23-2024, 04:00 PM)Webb Wrote: (05-22-2024, 08:07 PM)Webb Wrote: I checked the surname report in the Public Haplotree at FTDNA yesterday and today for DF27>CTS4065. Yesterday there were 39 individuals on the report and today there are 41.
CTS4065 now has 47 participants in the surname report on the Public Haplotree up from 41 yesterday.
Z49 from 40 to 44 since yesterday
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