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    Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
Post: RE: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ON...

Awood Wrote: (Yesterday, 03:41 PM) -- The Hvar samples look like foreign males with local female lineages. No R1, no I2. Oh yeah, real local. How did they get there? Let the historians figure it out....
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Ancient (aDNA) 335 46,488 10 hours ago
    Thread: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from the FTDNA Data Base
Post: RE: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from...

Aspar Wrote: (05-18-2024, 09:34 AM) -- So his confusion, steaming from the fact that he probably expected I1 or R-U106 is unfounded IMO and their family story is likely correct given the fact that no...
pelop
pelop
E1b1b-M215 20 706 05-18-2024, 03:45 PM
    Thread: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from the FTDNA Data Base
Post: RE: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from...

Qrts Wrote: (05-17-2024, 07:34 PM) -- I always imagined the bigger chunk of E-V13 in England coming from medieval France after the Norman conquest. -- Of course, and the same is true for the vast ma...
pelop
pelop
E1b1b-M215 20 706 05-18-2024, 03:35 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

alanarchae Wrote: (05-18-2024, 09:42 AM) -- My guess is that their mobility and their consequent ability to control routeways and networks was the key advantage over groups who used the traditional s...
pelop
pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,690 05-18-2024, 02:20 PM
    Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
Post: RE: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ON...

elflock Wrote: (05-17-2024, 06:00 PM) -- They're Middleeastern. There's nothing about these J2a-M410+ and J1a clades suggesting a Greek/Aegean connection. The same pattern is observable in all of the...
pelop
pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 335 46,488 05-18-2024, 11:33 AM
    Thread: Greek Jewish Y-DNA
Post: RE: Greek Jewish Y-DNA

Freb Wrote: (05-10-2024, 09:49 PM) -- One of the R1b clades look to be under R1b L21>DF13> Z39589>Z251>> FGC13899. Confirms there where Celtic adjacent clades [In Western Jews] even before migration ...
pelop
pelop
Jewish 5 447 05-12-2024, 03:16 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

okshtunas Wrote: (05-12-2024, 02:42 PM) -- So, M417 individuals obviously existed long before the TMRCA. It is only that, all surviving men under M417 belong to one founder, 5400ybp. All the other si...
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pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,690 05-12-2024, 03:10 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

old europe Wrote: (05-11-2024, 04:38 PM) -- People that root for the R1bV1626 thesis should provide evidence of where and when R1b V1636 entered into contact with archeological culture rich in R1b M ...
pelop
pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,690 05-12-2024, 01:51 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

old europe Wrote: (05-11-2024, 02:33 PM) -- pelop Wrote: (05-11-2024, 02:16 PM) -- old europe Wrote: (05-08-2024, 07:54 AM) -- There are also questions with the  uniparentals. If CLV is the PIA gen...
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pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,690 05-11-2024, 03:53 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

old europe Wrote: (05-08-2024, 07:54 AM) -- There are also questions with the  uniparentals. If CLV is the PIA genetic cluster you would expect R1bV1636 to pop up in decent amount in the most progres...
pelop
pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,690 05-11-2024, 02:16 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Vinitharya Wrote: (05-02-2024, 10:26 PM) -- I assume there had to be another Mycenaean founding haplogroup besides R-PF7562; R1b as a whole is the third-most common haplogroup in Greece (behind J2a a...
pelop
pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,690 05-03-2024, 03:08 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Georgios Wrote: (04-29-2024, 06:17 PM) -- pelop Wrote: (04-21-2024, 08:37 PM) -- Speaking of R-PF7562, we now have the oldest sample with that haplogroup from a Yamnaya burial in Romania. The previo...
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pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,690 04-29-2024, 07:26 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Vinitharya Wrote: (04-21-2024, 08:11 PM) -- I'm an A-West guy.  I think Hypothesis B was invented by the Soviets and called the 'Armenian hypothesis', but it presents problems concerning the uniparen...
pelop
pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,690 04-21-2024, 08:37 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

R.Rocca Wrote: (04-21-2024, 02:39 PM) -- By the way, the lengths that they have gone to not offend non-Europeans is sad but totally expected given the world we live in. To completely remove the word ...
pelop
pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,690 04-21-2024, 03:39 PM
    Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
Post: RE: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ON...

I had copy-pasted and taken some screenshots before they closed off online access to the EAA abstracts: Quote: -- Title: Herculaneum, 79 CE: Archaeogenetic insights into Roman society from a cat...
pelop
pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 335 46,488 04-21-2024, 02:09 PM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

Southpaw Wrote: (04-20-2024, 04:36 PM) -- From the recent aDNA paper regarding E1b1ba1b sample in Proto-Usatovo Kurgan Quote: -- Among the specimens in our selection, a CTAC individual from Ver...
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pelop
E1b1b-M215 833 35,050 04-21-2024, 12:09 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Capsian20 Wrote: (04-20-2024, 02:32 PM) -- R-V1636 (arent R-V136) is rare subclade i see is spread in Europe and Near East and Central Asia https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-V1636/tree  -- ...
pelop
pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,690 04-20-2024, 05:16 PM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

Autosomally they are a mix of European farmers + steppe (something like the "Caucasus-Lower Volga cline people" from the new papers) + minor Ukraine_N or Balkan_HG ancestry.
pelop
pelop
E1b1b-M215 833 35,050 04-20-2024, 01:55 PM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

We already have some Eneolithic Usatove and Cernavoda samples from Ukraine: Code: -- UKR_Cernavodă_I_En:KTL001__BC_3423__Cov_57.43%,0.129758,0.110693,0.039975,0.073967,-0.006463,0.04016,0.006345,-...
pelop
pelop
E1b1b-M215 833 35,050 04-20-2024, 01:44 PM
    Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (TITLES/ABSTRACTS)
Post: RE: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (TITLES/ABSTRA...

The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans Iosif Lazaridis,  Nick Patterson,  David Anthony,  Leonid Vyazov,  Romain Fournier,  Harald Ringbauer, Iñigo Olalde, Alexander A. Khokhlov, Egor P. Kitov,  ...
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pelop
Ancient (aDNA) 165 45,622 04-18-2024, 06:13 PM