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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
Post: RE: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ON...
Awood Wrote: (Yesterday, 03:41 PM)
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The Hvar samples look like foreign males with local female lineages. No R1, no I2. Oh yeah, real local. How did they get there? Let the historians figure it out.... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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Thread: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from the FTDNA Data Base
Post: RE: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from...
Aspar Wrote: (05-18-2024, 09:34 AM)
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So his confusion, steaming from the fact that he probably expected I1 or R-U106 is unfounded IMO and their family story is likely correct given the fact that no... |
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E1b1b-M215
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05-18-2024, 03:45 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from the FTDNA Data Base
Post: RE: E-V13 Numbers and a Couple of Conclusions from...
Qrts Wrote: (05-17-2024, 07:34 PM)
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I always imagined the bigger chunk of E-V13 in England coming from medieval France after the Norman conquest.
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Of course, and the same is true for the vast ma... |
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E1b1b-M215
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05-18-2024, 03:35 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
alanarchae Wrote: (05-18-2024, 09:42 AM)
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My guess is that their mobility and their consequent ability to control routeways and networks was the key advantage over groups who used the traditional s... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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05-18-2024, 02:20 PM |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
Post: RE: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ON...
elflock Wrote: (05-17-2024, 06:00 PM)
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They're Middleeastern. There's nothing about these J2a-M410+ and J1a clades suggesting a Greek/Aegean connection. The same pattern is observable in all of the... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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05-18-2024, 11:33 AM |
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Thread: Greek Jewish Y-DNA
Post: RE: Greek Jewish Y-DNA
Freb Wrote: (05-10-2024, 09:49 PM)
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One of the R1b clades look to be under R1b L21>DF13> Z39589>Z251>> FGC13899. Confirms there where Celtic adjacent clades [In Western Jews] even before migration ... |
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05-12-2024, 03:16 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
okshtunas Wrote: (05-12-2024, 02:42 PM)
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So, M417 individuals obviously existed long before the TMRCA. It is only that, all surviving men under M417 belong to one founder, 5400ybp. All the other si... |
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05-12-2024, 03:10 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
old europe Wrote: (05-11-2024, 04:38 PM)
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People that root for the R1bV1626 thesis should provide evidence of where and when R1b V1636 entered into contact with archeological culture rich in R1b M ... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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05-12-2024, 01:51 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
old europe Wrote: (05-11-2024, 02:33 PM)
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pelop Wrote: (05-11-2024, 02:16 PM)
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old europe Wrote: (05-08-2024, 07:54 AM)
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There are also questions with the uniparentals. If CLV is the PIA gen... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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05-11-2024, 03:53 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
old europe Wrote: (05-08-2024, 07:54 AM)
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There are also questions with the uniparentals. If CLV is the PIA genetic cluster you would expect R1bV1636 to pop up in decent amount in the most progres... |
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05-11-2024, 02:16 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Vinitharya Wrote: (05-02-2024, 10:26 PM)
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I assume there had to be another Mycenaean founding haplogroup besides R-PF7562; R1b as a whole is the third-most common haplogroup in Greece (behind J2a a... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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05-03-2024, 03:08 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Georgios Wrote: (04-29-2024, 06:17 PM)
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pelop Wrote: (04-21-2024, 08:37 PM)
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Speaking of R-PF7562, we now have the oldest sample with that haplogroup from a Yamnaya burial in Romania. The previo... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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04-29-2024, 07:26 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Vinitharya Wrote: (04-21-2024, 08:11 PM)
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I'm an A-West guy. I think Hypothesis B was invented by the Soviets and called the 'Armenian hypothesis', but it presents problems concerning the uniparen... |
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04-21-2024, 08:37 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
R.Rocca Wrote: (04-21-2024, 02:39 PM)
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By the way, the lengths that they have gone to not offend non-Europeans is sad but totally expected given the world we live in. To completely remove the word ... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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04-21-2024, 03:39 PM |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
Post: RE: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ON...
I had copy-pasted and taken some screenshots before they closed off online access to the EAA abstracts:
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Title: Herculaneum, 79 CE: Archaeogenetic insights into Roman society from a cat... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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04-21-2024, 02:09 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Southpaw Wrote: (04-20-2024, 04:36 PM)
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From the recent aDNA paper regarding E1b1ba1b sample in Proto-Usatovo Kurgan
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Among the specimens in our selection, a CTAC individual from Ver... |
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E1b1b-M215
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04-21-2024, 12:09 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Capsian20 Wrote: (04-20-2024, 02:32 PM)
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R-V1636 (arent R-V136) is rare subclade i see is spread in Europe and Near East and Central Asia
https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-V1636/tree
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Ancient (aDNA)
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04-20-2024, 05:16 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Autosomally they are a mix of European farmers + steppe (something like the "Caucasus-Lower Volga cline people" from the new papers) + minor Ukraine_N or Balkan_HG ancestry. |
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E1b1b-M215
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04-20-2024, 01:55 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
We already have some Eneolithic Usatove and Cernavoda samples from Ukraine:
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UKR_Cernavodă_I_En:KTL001__BC_3423__Cov_57.43%,0.129758,0.110693,0.039975,0.073967,-0.006463,0.04016,0.006345,-... |
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E1b1b-M215
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04-20-2024, 01:44 PM |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (TITLES/ABSTRACTS)
Post: RE: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (TITLES/ABSTRA...
The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Iosif Lazaridis, Nick Patterson, David Anthony, Leonid Vyazov, Romain Fournier, Harald Ringbauer, Iñigo Olalde, Alexander A. Khokhlov, Egor P. Kitov, ... |
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Ancient (aDNA)
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04-18-2024, 06:13 PM |