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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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pelop Wrote: (05-18-2024, 02:20 PM)
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alanarchae Wrote: (05-18-2024, 09:42 AM)
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My guess is that their mobility and their consequent ability to control routeways and networks was the key advantag... |
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Yesterday, 05:11 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| as with all papers in this kind of field, it’s already out of date but it gives an v good summary of why neither Indo Anatolian or core IE could have developed in farming areas like Anatolia
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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jdean Wrote: (05-19-2024, 01:36 PM)
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alanarchae Wrote: (05-19-2024, 01:08 PM)
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R.Rocca Wrote: (05-18-2024, 07:38 PM)
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Unlike the Sredny Stog samples that are all I-699, 39% (n = 9) of the "Do... |
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R1b-L51
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05-19-2024, 05:16 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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Southpaw Wrote: (05-19-2024, 01:32 PM)
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One thing i wonder, how did Basques ended up being so high in R1b-L51?
Could it be that Basque language could have in fact been one of the many Steppe lan... |
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R1b-L51
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05-19-2024, 05:06 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
| The information on the Repin culture in English seem extremely limited given that many see at as the origin of/an early stage of the Yamnaya culture. I can’t even find a distribution map though there... |
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R1b-L51
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05-19-2024, 01:24 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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R.Rocca Wrote: (05-18-2024, 07:38 PM)
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R.Rocca Wrote: (05-18-2024, 02:01 PM)
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According to the paper, only the "Core Yamnaya" genetic group expanded as opposed to the "Don Yamnaya" which largely... |
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05-19-2024, 01:08 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
| Archaeologists do tend to derive Repin from roots in Sredny Stog in east Ukraine. So the possibility of L23 coming into existence in Ukraine Sredny Stog but expanding eastwards to the Volga and beyond... |
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05-18-2024, 04:03 PM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
| or to put it simply - L23 was barely branching between 4300 and 3650BC (just that branching into Z2203 and L51 c.4000 then tumbleweed to 3650BC). It was so moribund that they likely stayed together in... |
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05-18-2024, 11:56 AM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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alanarchae Wrote: (05-18-2024, 10:13 AM)
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jArmandoR1b Wrote: (05-16-2024, 11:15 PM)
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alanarchae Wrote: (05-16-2024, 06:13 PM)
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it’s interesting how direct evidence shows L51 appearing in Yamn... |
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05-18-2024, 11:28 AM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
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jArmandoR1b Wrote: (05-16-2024, 11:15 PM)
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alanarchae Wrote: (05-16-2024, 06:13 PM)
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it’s interesting how direct evidence shows L51 appearing in Yamnaya, Afanasiebo, early CW etc all around 3000... |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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targaryen Wrote: (05-18-2024, 02:05 AM)
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Jaska Wrote: (05-17-2024, 10:44 PM)
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Alanarchae Wrote:
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For me there are too many things that fit well a western entry c.3000BC to be coincidence. And... |
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05-18-2024, 10:06 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Jaska Wrote: (05-17-2024, 10:44 PM)
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Alanarchae Wrote:
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For me there are too many things that fit well a western entry c.3000BC to be coincidence. And I accept there may have been some gene flow... |
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05-18-2024, 09:42 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| I’ve been doing a bit of reading into the most up to date analysis of Kura-Araxes culture and it’s dating. This is telling me that KA was established across the south Caucasus from about 3500BC and li... |
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05-18-2024, 09:02 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Gabru77 Wrote: (05-17-2024, 09:18 AM)
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It's clear that the Anatolian branch is not from Pontic-Caspian Steppe whether the Balkan or the Caucasus route
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The Anatolian languages of Turkey only ha... |
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05-17-2024, 10:35 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Ffoucart Wrote: (05-17-2024, 07:12 AM)
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targaryen Wrote: (05-16-2024, 06:03 PM)
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Kurgans are Yamnaya... Anatolian is pre-Yamnaya by at least 1000 years. You might have some primitive form of it,... |
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05-17-2024, 08:46 AM |
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Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
| it’s interesting how direct evidence shows L51 appearing in Yamnaya, Afanasiebo, early CW etc all around 3000BC plus or minus a century. It’s like L51 as a whole suddenly appears regardless of exact ... |
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05-16-2024, 06:13 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| Having done a chunk of reading into the archaeology of Turkey in the c.3500-2000BC era over the last few days (and some from linguists) I still strongly favour a western entry by the Anatolian IEs. T... |
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05-16-2024, 11:55 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| I wonder if one arrival in Anatolia the IEs retained a steppe pastoralist way of life for their first centuries there? Hence v low visibility of settlements. However it’s also worth noting that they m... |
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05-15-2024, 04:53 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Psynome Wrote: (05-15-2024, 01:20 AM)
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targaryen Wrote: (05-13-2024, 07:03 PM)
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Vinitharya Wrote: (05-13-2024, 12:30 PM)
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Anatolian from the east makes zero sense. First of all, there are ze... |
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05-15-2024, 04:12 PM |
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Thread: Backyard Hobbies
Post: RE: Backyard Hobbies
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Albruic Wrote: (05-14-2024, 01:15 AM)
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Backyard Hobbies? I can say I found a very fun one, though.
Don't worry I am not making the crow population any smaller :-)
https://i.imgur.com/Xd7UM33... |
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