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    Thread: Proto-Indo-European and Indo-Anatolian
Post: RE: Proto-Indo-European and Indo-Anatolian

Does that include loanwords also (at or before the PIE stage)?
Kale
Kale
Linguistics 19 984 9 hours ago
    Thread: Proto-Indo-European and Indo-Anatolian
Post: RE: Proto-Indo-European and Indo-Anatolian

So now that it seems like the mainstream is on board with a Steppe origin of PIE, what does linguistics have to say about PPIE? For example are there any hints of language contacts which could point...
Kale
Kale
Linguistics 19 984 10 hours ago
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

What do ya'll make of the sample KTL001 (3502-3343BCE) in this context of origin of Yamnaya. It seems half Cernavoda half Yamnaya. Ukraine_Kartal_Cernavoda_KTL001 Ukraine_Kartal_Cernavoda_A 0.45...
Kale
Kale
R1b-L51 409 14,704 Yesterday, 02:04 PM
    Thread: Uralic populations in the qpAdm models by Zeng et al. 2023
Post: RE: Uralic populations in the qpAdm models by Zeng...

Another try at Mansi. Added Kolyma_Meso and Saqqaq to columns, which did make things a bit more picky. RUS_Krasnoyarsk_Orak_MLBA 0.375908 0.0165742 22.6804 (Sintashta-clone) RUS_Omsk_Borovjank...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 32 2,013 05-17-2024, 02:12 AM
    Thread: Uralic populations in the qpAdm models by Zeng et al. 2023
Post: RE: Uralic populations in the qpAdm models by Zeng...

kolompar Wrote: (05-15-2024, 09:11 PM) -- I tried Mansi next, even the best non feasible p was only 0.046, best feasible model is Russia_Karelia_HG + Russia_Mezhovskaya.SG + Russia_CentralYakutia_LN....
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 32 2,013 05-16-2024, 08:17 PM
    Thread: Qpgraph of Eurasian AMH dispersion
Post: RE: Qpgraph of Eurasian AMH dispersion

I suspect AR19K has some quality issues, it just seems far from a lot of populations. Chimp.REF Papuan.DG China_UP AR19K 0.00156 2.96 699976 Mbuti.DG Papuan.DG China_UP AR19K 0.00038 0.81 728883 Mbut...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 37 1,836 05-15-2024, 04:45 AM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

It doesn't look like many Steppe women, no mt-U2/U4/U5 that I can see, although there was a mt-R1b1 in Sirnak_EBA. Many of the 'Southern' steppe lines may be a bit more ambiguous because did they co...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,646 05-14-2024, 08:19 PM
    Thread: E-V22 origins and spread
Post: RE: E-V22 origins and spread

ilabv Wrote: (05-10-2024, 10:24 AM) -- Proto-Semitic at 6000 BC is quite frankly silly. Not worth refuting -- Would Pre-Proto-Semitic make sense at 6000BC? E.g. it's split from other Afroasiatic la...
Kale
Kale
E 52 1,755 05-14-2024, 05:03 PM
    Thread: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?
Post: RE: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?

targaryen Wrote: (05-13-2024, 08:22 PM) -- My point is that I don't think all the EEF in CW is from Ukraine/steppes. Some of it is local Polish GACs. -- Of course. Some GAC were incorporated into CW...
Kale
Kale
R1a 14 368 05-14-2024, 03:33 AM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

targaryen Wrote: (05-13-2024, 07:03 PM) -- Mate, like was mentioned before, we have IBD sharing between CLVs and Mesopotomian like samples. This means within generations CLVs mixed with Mesopotomians...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,646 05-13-2024, 07:27 PM
    Thread: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?
Post: RE: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?

I suppose CWC came from a more Ukraine-Eneolithic rich subset of Yamnaya? A similar analogue would be Don Yamnaya, they pick up only a little extra stuff from Ukraine yet the y lines shift dramatical...
Kale
Kale
R1a 14 368 05-13-2024, 05:35 PM
    Thread: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?
Post: RE: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?

Yamnaya and early/high-steppe CWC can both be modeled as mixes of Eneolithic Progress and Dereivka. CWC has more Dereivka than Yamnaya/Afansievo do, so I'll hazard a guess that might be the source of ...
Kale
Kale
R1a 14 368 05-13-2024, 05:12 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

alanarchae Wrote: (05-13-2024, 04:07 PM) -- On the other hand the DNA evidence which indicates the CLV cline groups had mixed with specifically Mesopotamia linked farmers extremely hard to explain by...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,646 05-13-2024, 04:52 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Vinitharya Wrote: (05-13-2024, 12:30 PM) -- Anatolian from the east makes zero sense.  First of all, there are zero proven migrations of Indo-European people through the Caucasus, while the Greeks, T...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,646 05-13-2024, 02:11 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

targaryen Wrote: (05-12-2024, 04:48 AM) -- We have IBD between CLVs in the steppe and those Central Anatolian samples. -- Do you have any specific cases? The only IBD links between Steppe-Eneolithic...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,646 05-12-2024, 04:40 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Kale Wrote: (04-22-2024, 05:52 PM) -- Jerome Wrote: (04-22-2024, 03:18 AM) -- 2 kaman Kalehoyuk samples from 1500 bc(pretty late) do show steppe,but the isparta,amsaya (likely palaic and luwian spea...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 288 21,646 05-12-2024, 01:33 AM
    Thread: Ancient Egyptians
Post: RE: Ancient Egyptians

Southpaw Wrote: (05-09-2024, 11:56 AM) -- We have two leaks on Old Kingdom Egypt, and they are almost all E-M35, we are yet to see if they are E-M78 or Natufian E-M34 or whatever subclade they were. ...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 40 3,741 05-11-2024, 07:05 PM
    Thread: Did the Y-Adam ventured outside Africa before coming back and expanding again ?
Post: RE: Did the Y-Adam ventured outside Africa before ...

Excellent topic. Here's the little I have to contribute. https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?tid=96&pid=5528#pid5528 Also, maybe the technical limits of the 1240k have been reached regarding arc...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 8 729 05-11-2024, 06:59 PM
    Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion

IBM in the right breaking it is unsurprising, just shared Western stuff between them and Iran_N. Natufian can't fix it because any sort of ANA will substantially drop ZlatyKun affinity.
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 247 16,801 05-08-2024, 09:02 PM
    Thread: Right populations to use for qpadm
Post: RE: Right populations to use for qpadm

First in the list, your 'base' population, SouthAfrica_2000BP - I9028.SG, bab001.SG, I9133.SG, baa001.SG Then... Barcin_N.SG Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG CHG.SG OUB002 SKH001 The copper age .SG samples fr...
Kale
Kale
Inquiries Corner 3 113 05-08-2024, 08:59 PM