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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
Post: RE: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
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Norfern-Ostrobothnian Wrote: (10-27-2023, 01:23 PM)
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Dzudzuana to a lesser extent.
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Dzudzuana _UP and Kotias_Klde_UP is one and that population. Therefore, Dzudzuna was not released until Kotia... |
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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
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Norfern-Ostrobothnian Wrote: (10-27-2023, 12:33 PM)
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But NEO283 still doesn't prefer any of the other Gravettians over WHG
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This does not mean that WHG prefer NEO283 compared to Gravettians. Th... |
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10-27-2023, 01:16 PM |
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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
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Norfern-Ostrobothnian Wrote: (10-27-2023, 11:49 AM)
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In F4 stats they prefer WHG over every other West Eurasian population by a lot.
Chimp.REF Georgia_Kotias_UP Czech_Vestonice16 Italy_Mesolithic.... |
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10-27-2023, 12:13 PM |
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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
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TanTin Wrote: (10-27-2023, 12:11 AM)
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G25 allows us to do some visualization. I can do similar visualization by using other tools. So I have some idea what archi is trying to show us, but the way ... |
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10-27-2023, 11:39 AM |
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Thread: Genome sequences of 36,000- to 37,000-year-old modern humans at Buran-Kaya III in Cri
Post: RE: Genome sequences of 36,000- to 37,000-year-old...
| This is not a new sample, it is a double of the old sample that is in G25.
BGR_Bacho_Kiro_IUP:F6-620,-0.076261,-0.142174,-0.087869,0.073321,0.004616,-0.01255,0.000235,-0.004846,0.040496,0.010752,0.00... |
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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
Post: RE: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
| Of all the erroneous porridge here from solid errors that did not have to publish one at all there is the only right message and then from another forum, before my messages.
Song Wrote: (10-25-202... |
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10-26-2023, 09:11 PM |
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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
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Norfern-Ostrobothnian Wrote: (10-26-2023, 07:35 PM)
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As for WHG and Kotias UP, the latter barely has any affinity to Gravettians. But WHG has a lot of it. Kotias UP prefers WHG over every populatio... |
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10-26-2023, 08:16 PM |
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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
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Woz Wrote: (10-26-2023, 07:35 PM)
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DNA archi Wrote: (10-26-2023, 11:20 AM)
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In the Caucasus, there was still a Mesolithic when the Black Sea-Caspian steppes was already an Eneolitic.
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Um.. th... |
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10-26-2023, 08:09 PM |
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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
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Norfern-Ostrobothnian Wrote: (10-26-2023, 03:34 PM)
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They aren't direct ancestors but they certainly share some ancestry with WHG
Chimp.REF Georgia_Kotias_UP Italy_Mesolithic.SG Russia_Sunghir3.SG... |
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10-26-2023, 04:00 PM |
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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
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Norfern-Ostrobothnian Wrote: (10-26-2023, 01:19 PM)
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DNA archi Wrote: (10-26-2023, 11:20 AM)
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Kale Wrote: (10-21-2023, 08:14 PM)
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PopGenist82 Wrote: (10-21-2023, 08:19 AM)
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1. Kotias _Up a... |
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10-26-2023, 01:41 PM |
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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
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Kale Wrote: (10-21-2023, 08:14 PM)
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PopGenist82 Wrote: (10-21-2023, 08:19 AM)
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1. Kotias _Up and Dzudzuana specficially were reproductively unsuccesful and became locally extinct, which is perfe... |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
Post: RE: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ON...
| In the previous message, read not "Fatyanovo R1a-Z94", but "Sintashta R1a-Z94".
ph2ter Wrote: (10-25-2023, 04:47 PM)
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From you only the trolling.
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Only you do the trolling here. I gave only ... |
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10-25-2023, 06:44 PM |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
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ph2ter Wrote: (10-25-2023, 02:04 PM)
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You are writing nonsense from post to post.
I can prove that Sintashta is related to Fatyanovo with Y-DNA and you cannot the same for Czech CW. Fatyanovo an... |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
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PopGenist82 Wrote: (10-25-2023, 12:16 PM)
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DNA archi Wrote: (10-25-2023, 12:03 PM)
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PopGenist82 Wrote: (10-25-2023, 11:22 AM)
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Some interpretations had in the past concluded 'migrations from ... |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
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ph2ter Wrote: (10-25-2023, 11:30 AM)
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Ah, the same I get after making the similarity maps for Sintashta (EBA and MBA).
From the maps it is obvious again that Sintashta descends from Fatyanovo:
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10-25-2023, 12:36 PM |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
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PopGenist82 Wrote: (10-25-2023, 11:22 AM)
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Some interpretations had in the past concluded 'migrations from Central Europe' to the Forest zone ~ 2200 BC, but this was just a chain of cultural links ... |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
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| No, that's not why. You just measured it incorrectly. You have a mistake, did you measure the average distance from Fatyanovo to all later populations in the average, but what does the Preclassical Un... |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
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ph2ter Wrote: (10-24-2023, 09:31 PM)
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Why do you think that Sinstashta and Fatyanovo have nothing in common? What is so different?
It is obvious that PCA is not about nothing.
IBD has its own l... |
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10-24-2023, 11:12 PM |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
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ph2ter Wrote: (10-24-2023, 07:51 PM)
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DNA archi Wrote: (10-24-2023, 06:18 PM)
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... Fatyanovo and Sintashta had a common local substrate from local EHG, an increase in which shows a distant metho... |
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10-24-2023, 08:49 PM |
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Thread: Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
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ph2ter Wrote: (10-24-2023, 06:40 PM)
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DNA archi Wrote: (10-24-2023, 06:18 PM)
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Distant methods are completely unvalid for the nearest kinship, because they reflect any garbage, and not the real ... |
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