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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...
| Isn't it an established fact the the Slavic language, in general, is a sister or daughter language to the Balt language? If so, it would be expected that the majority of words in Slavic come from Balt... |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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Orentil Wrote: (05-15-2024, 07:18 PM)
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leonardo Wrote: (05-15-2024, 05:01 PM)
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Orentil Wrote: (05-15-2024, 04:43 PM)
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I have no problem with this geographical model - we might only disagree a... |
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leonardo |
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05-15-2024, 09:25 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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Orentil Wrote: (05-15-2024, 04:43 PM)
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ambron Wrote: (05-15-2024, 04:30 PM)
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In practice, it looked like this: firstly the Slavs migrated from their homeland, covering roughly the area of histor... |
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05-15-2024, 05:01 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...
| @Radko, maybe a member of the Chernyakhov culture back migrated along with the Huns? |
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leonardo |
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05-13-2024, 02:14 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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ambron Wrote: (05-10-2024, 02:54 PM)
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It was the other way around... Until the 14th century, north-eastern Poland was densely populated (by Eastern European standards, of course). The local... |
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leonardo |
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05-10-2024, 08:34 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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alexfritz Wrote: (05-07-2024, 02:52 PM)
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i think it is pretty safe to say from the data sofar that the proto-Slavic core must have been smwhere between the Vistula and the Voldga, and in light of t... |
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leonardo |
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05-07-2024, 03:00 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...
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ph2ter Wrote: (05-06-2024, 07:09 PM)
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leonardo Wrote: (05-06-2024, 06:52 PM)
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ph2ter Wrote: (05-06-2024, 06:40 PM)
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It is not possible to decide the source of Slavic clades of M458, Y3210 and... |
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leonardo |
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05-06-2024, 07:22 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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ph2ter Wrote: (05-06-2024, 06:40 PM)
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It is not possible to decide the source of Slavic clades of M458, Y3210 and CTS1211 before we get Iron Age and early Medieval samples from Belarus and norther... |
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leonardo |
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05-06-2024, 06:52 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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okshtunas Wrote: (05-06-2024, 05:33 PM)
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. But I'm afraid your opinions don't matter unless you agree with them lol.
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As you can see, that won't happen. LOL. We will simply have to agree to dis... |
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leonardo |
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05-06-2024, 05:49 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...
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Radko Wrote: (05-06-2024, 05:13 PM)
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leonardo Wrote: (05-06-2024, 04:31 PM)
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That's why I believe, for the consideration of the Slavic ethnogenesis, which was formed by patrilineally dominated c... |
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leonardo |
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05-06-2024, 05:45 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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Radko Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:59 PM)
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Bukva_ Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:15 PM)
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Then my question to you is, how do you explain modern autosomal profile of Belarusians and Ukranians, and why modeling ... |
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05-06-2024, 04:31 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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Radko Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:46 PM)
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leonardo Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:22 PM)
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If Provyn and Krahn's site is using modern samples, how do you explain Y2912 being situated where it is?
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Do you b... |
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leonardo |
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05-06-2024, 04:10 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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Radko Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:59 PM)
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Bukva_ Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:15 PM)
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Then my question to you is, how do you explain modern autosomal profile of Belarusians and Ukranians, and why modeling ... |
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leonardo |
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05-06-2024, 04:06 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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Bukva_ Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:15 PM)
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leonardo Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:12 PM)
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Bukva_ Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:09 PM)
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Because most of the samples are modern and ancient ones are Polish Middle A... |
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leonardo |
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05-06-2024, 03:22 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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Bukva_ Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:19 PM)
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leonardo Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:12 PM)
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Bukva_ Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:09 PM)
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Because most of the samples are modern and ancient ones are Polish Middle A... |
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leonardo |
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05-06-2024, 03:20 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...
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Bukva_ Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:09 PM)
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leonardo Wrote: (05-06-2024, 03:02 PM)
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Radko Wrote: (05-06-2024, 02:57 PM)
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Out of 17 officially contaminated samples, 4 (!) belong to R-YP6048 (TMRCA 1... |
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leonardo |
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05-06-2024, 03:12 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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Radko Wrote: (05-06-2024, 02:57 PM)
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Out of 17 officially contaminated samples, 4 (!) belong to R-YP6048 (TMRCA 1500 ybp according to YFull) under R-L1029:
PCA0332 (BTW, labelled incorrectly as Os... |
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leonardo |
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05-06-2024, 03:02 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...
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Radko Wrote: (05-06-2024, 02:40 PM)
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Andar Wrote: (05-06-2024, 02:21 PM)
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These distribution and haplogroup migration maps are mainly based on modern-day distribution and some ancient samples (... |
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leonardo |
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05-06-2024, 02:49 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...
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Bukva_ Wrote: (05-06-2024, 02:39 PM)
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Andar Wrote: (05-06-2024, 02:21 PM)
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leonardo Wrote: (05-06-2024, 02:04 PM)
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So, we are presented with "possibly," "probably," and "most likely" as evi... |
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leonardo |
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05-06-2024, 02:45 PM |
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Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...
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Andar Wrote: (05-06-2024, 02:21 PM)
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leonardo Wrote: (05-06-2024, 02:04 PM)
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So, we are presented with "possibly," "probably," and "most likely" as evidence to be more weighted than what is "a... |
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