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Harappaworld thread for South and Central Asians
#1
Continuation of the Anthrogenica thread.
sample:me
distance: 1.8387
Telugu_GBR: 67
AkMoustafa_MLBA: 16
Gonur_BA_o: 9.5
Parkhai_MBA: 7.5

sample:me
distance: 1.9161
Telugu_GBR: 66.5
Abusanteer_IA3: 33.5
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#2
Surname: Mir from Jhelum, and Bewal, Gujjar Khan, Pakistan, originally from Azad Kashmir.
S-Indian 33.05
Baloch 37.02
Caucasian 16.66
NE Euro 9.75
Siberian 1.78
NE Asian 0.69
American 0.32
Beringian 0.28
SW Asian 0.22
San 0.22

Mt: R5a

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#3
Hi,

In my new K6 calculator there are 6 components:-
Bedouin ( proxy for Levant N )
African ( Sub Saharan Ancestry )
East Asian ( Ancient East Asians )
Irula ( AASI Ancestry )
GIH ( Dholavira kind of ancestry, more West asian than I8728 )
Finn ( For EHG ancestry)

The name of the sheet is K6 Ancient roots

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...18Vfs/edit
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#4
nair from palakkad..has konkani brahmin ancestry ....( nayak ) reportedly....


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 48.27
2 Baloch 36.30
3 Caucasian 7.51
4 NE-Euro 3.45
5 Beringian 1.71
6 NE-Asian 1.09


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 rajasthani_harappa @ 2.967765
2 brahmin-tamil-nadu_metspalu @ 3.151709
3 goan_harappa @ 3.330265
4 kerala-christian_harappa @ 3.633098
5 tn-brahmin_xing @ 3.639632
6 iyer-brahmin_harappa @ 4.066656
7 maharashtrian_harappa @ 4.155906
8 singapore-indian-b_sgvp @ 4.524980
9 iyengar-brahmin_harappa @ 4.567410
10 kerala-nair_harappa @ 4.772264
11 kerala_harappa @ 5.189510
12 ap-brahmin_xing @ 5.202715
13 meghawal_reich @ 5.262859
14 karnataka-brahmin_harappa @ 5.341884
15 gujarati_harappa @ 5.582498
16 up_harappa @ 5.890737
17 meghawal_metspalu @ 6.213280
18 ap-hyderabad_harappa @ 6.521852
19 lambadi_metspalu @ 6.851469
20 kurmi_metspalu @ 6.931797

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% goan_harappa +50% kerala-christian_harappa @ 2.014068


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% goan_harappa +25% gujarati-muslim_harappa +25% vysya_reich @ 1.780325


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kamsali_reich + velama_metspalu @ 1.525507
2 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kamsali_reich + velama_reich @ 1.528214
3 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + naidu_reich + piramalai-kallar_metspalu @ 1.544320
4 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + sakilli_chaubey + velama_metspalu @ 1.573214
5 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + velama_metspalu @ 1.585884
6 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kurumba_metspalu + piramalai-kallar_metspalu @ 1.592511
7 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + piramalai-kallar_metspalu + tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste_metspalu @ 1.610034
8 ap-reddy_harappa + goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + sakilli_chaubey @ 1.610733
9 goan_harappa + gujarati-a_1000genomes + hakkipikki_metspalu + kalash_hgdp @ 1.619498
10 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kurumba_metspalu + naidu_reich @ 1.621421
11 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + sakilli_chaubey + velama_reich @ 1.633608
12 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + naidu_reich + singapore-indian-a_sgvp @ 1.634012
13 goan_harappa + kurumba_metspalu + punjabi-khatri_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.638315
14 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste_metspalu + vysya_reich @ 1.644101
15 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + piramalai-kallar_metspalu + tamil-vellalar_harappa @ 1.647410
16 goan_harappa + hallaki_reich + sindhi_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.659013
17 goan_harappa + punjabi-khatri_harappa + tamil-vellalar_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.671335
18 goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + piramalai-kallar_metspalu + piramalai-kallar_metspalu @ 1.672774
19 ap-reddy_harappa + goan_harappa + kalash_hgdp + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa @ 1.679563
20 goan_harappa + gujarati-a_1000genomes + kalash_hgdp + north-kannadi_chaubey @ 1.683971
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#5
nair lady from kottayam..settled in kannur...

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 50.52
2 Baloch 35.05
3 Caucasian 5.26
4 NE-Euro 2.73
5 American 1.97
6 Papuan 1.35
7 Siberian 1.12


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 meghawal_metspalu @ 2.807697
2 singapore-indian-b_sgvp @ 3.105447
3 rajasthani_harappa @ 3.770046
4 kerala-christian_harappa @ 3.872943
5 kurmi_metspalu @ 4.307925
6 ap-hyderabad_harappa @ 4.437071
7 ap-brahmin_xing @ 4.536038
8 up_harappa @ 4.722086
9 tamil_harappa @ 4.734213
10 lambadi_metspalu @ 4.951250
11 sourastrian_harappa @ 5.102196
12 tharu_metspalu @ 5.208924
13 iyer-brahmin_harappa @ 5.225959
14 karnataka_harappa @ 5.338249
15 tn-brahmin_xing @ 5.389211
16 iyengar-brahmin_harappa @ 5.452559
17 andhra-pradesh_harappa @ 5.501902
18 bihari_harappa @ 5.503900
19 kerala-nair_harappa @ 5.525229
20 bengali_metspalu @ 5.609858

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% tamil_harappa +50% tn-brahmin_xing @ 2.044188


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% meghawal_metspalu +25% tamil_harappa +25% tn-brahmin_xing @ 1.823880


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 kurmi_metspalu + kurumba_metspalu + pushtikar-brahmin_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.768288
2 bhatia_harappa + sakilli_chaubey + tamil_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.774344
3 bhatia_harappa + kurumba_metspalu + tamil_harappa + vysya_reich @ 1.785123
4 kurmi_metspalu + piramalai-kallar_metspalu + pushtikar-brahmin_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.795708
5 kashmiri-pandit_reich + meghawal_metspalu + tamil-nadar_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.797219
6 kurmi_metspalu + pushtikar-brahmin_harappa + singapore-indian-a_sgvp + velama_reich @ 1.810435
7 pushtikar-brahmin_harappa + tamil-vellalar_harappa + velama_reich + velama_reich @ 1.811844
8 bhatia_harappa + madiga_reich + tamil_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.815897
9 pushtikar-brahmin_harappa + tamil-nadar_harappa + velama_reich + velama_reich @ 1.817751
10 kashmiri-pandit_reich + meghawal_metspalu + singapore-indian-a_sgvp + velama_reich @ 1.817757
11 meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + tamil_harappa + tn-brahmin_xing @ 1.823880
12 bhatia_harappa + madiga_reich + meghawal_metspalu + velama_reich @ 1.823985
13 piramalai-kallar_metspalu + punjabi-arain_xing + sourastrian_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.827439
14 kashmiri-pandit_reich + kurmi_metspalu + tamil_harappa + vysya_reich @ 1.829560
15 kashmiri-pandit_reich + south-african-indian_harappa + velama_reich + velama_reich @ 1.845280
16 karnataka_harappa + kashmiri-pandit_reich + meghawal_metspalu + vysya_reich @ 1.845911
17 kashmiri-pandit_reich + meghawal_metspalu + tamil_harappa + vysya_reich @ 1.846015
18 punjabi-brahmin_harappa + tamil_harappa + tamil-vellalar_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.847358
19 karnataka_harappa + kashmiri-pandit_reich + tamil-nadar_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.847363
20 kamsali_reich + meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + punjabi-arain_xing @ 1.850583
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Safi-Yusufzai Pashtun from Shangla, Pakistan
Y-DNA R-Y3370
mtDNA M7b1

1 Baloch 39.15
2 S-Indian 21.11
3 Caucasian 19.77
4 NE-Euro 10.98
5 Siberian 2.3
6 SW-Asian 1.86
7 Mediterranean 1.79
8 American 1.38
9 Beringian 1.33
10 Papuan 0.19
11 SE-Asian 0.14
12 NE-Asian 0.01

Using 1 population approximation:
1 kalash_hgdp @ 5.310435
2 pathan_hgdp @ 5.572053
3 pashtun_harappa @ 6.376813
4 sindhi_harappa @ 8.921323
5 punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 9.670560
6 bhatia_harappa @ 10.903834
7 kashmiri_harappa @ 11.264086
8 burusho_hgdp @ 11.737814
9 punjabi-jatt-sikh_harappa @ 12.019632
10 pushtikar-brahmin_harappa @ 12.875143

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% kalash_hgdp +50% pashtun_harappa @ 2.298292

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% bhatia_harappa +25% north-ossetian_harappa +25% punjabi-ramgarhia_harappa @ 2.173582

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 kalash_hgdp + punjabi-arain_xing + punjabi-arain_xing + stalskoe_xing @ 1.379229
2 kalash_hgdp + punjabi-arain_xing + sindhi_hgdp + stalskoe_xing @ 1.451323
3 kalash_hgdp + punjabi-ramgarhia_harappa + sindhi_hgdp + stalskoe_xing @ 1.474341
4 kalash_hgdp + kashmiri-pahari_harappa + sindhi_hgdp + stalskoe_xing @ 1.558097
5 kalash_hgdp + punjabi_harappa + sindhi_hgdp + stalskoe_xing @ 1.687207
6 pathan_hgdp + punjabi-arain_xing + sindhi_hgdp + stalskoe_xing @ 1.738516
7 kalash_hgdp + sindhi_hgdp + singapore-indian-c_sgvp + stalskoe_xing @ 1.747293
8 kalash_hgdp + punjabi-brahmin_harappa + sindhi_hgdp + stalskoe_xing @ 1.753155
9 chechen_yunusbayev + punjabi-jatt-sikh_harappa + sindhi_hgdp + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.771021
10 kalash_hgdp + kashmiri-pandit_reich + sindhi_hgdp + stalskoe_xing @ 1.814191
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#7
Hi,

I ran K9 admixture on 3281 Afro Eurasian samples, meaning I did not include Karitianas, Pimas, Suruis etc. in the Dataset. Since the focus was on India/Pakistan, I got a Balochistan component. It peaks in the Makrani, Balochi and Brahui people and is quite high for Punjabis, Pathans and Gujratis. It is also high for Caucasian populations.

The interesting component is the Bedouin component for me here.

HONine
Balochistan: 45.79%
Irulas: 31.78%
Nganassan: 2.32%
African Pygmies: 0.26%
Bedouins: 6.73%
Papuans: 0.54%
Finnish: 10.38%
Chinese: 0.24%
Chukchis: 1.95%

None of the Gujratis have scored more than 4%. Samples like 20858 and 20870 are quite likely more Iran N than me, meaning I have excess Levantine or Anatolian ancestry.

Here are the results for I8726, again Bedouin is not very high.

HONine
Balochistan: 60.24%
Irulas: 34.40%
Nganassan: 1.63%
African Pygmies: 0.36%
Bedouins: 3.23%
Papuans: 0.13%
Finnish: 0.00%
Chinese: 0.00%
Chukchis: 0.00%


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In the following you will find the toppers of each of the 9 ancestral components in the admixture results.


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Big Grin 
Onge's results in my calculator, very interesting 

HONine
Balochistan: 0.00%
Irulas: 44.49%
Nganassan: 3.32%
African Pygmies: 3.63%
Bedouins: 0.07%
Papuans: 11.64%
Finnish: 4.14%
Chinese: 31.68%
Chukchis: 1.04%
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#10
Can you share sources or a link to the calculator?
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(11-15-2023, 02:04 AM)ltnultihaxer Wrote: Can you share sources or a link to the calculator?

Hey, I haven't uploaded the calculator anywhere. However, you can check out the following links. I took the data from here:-
https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2021/02/2...nk-format/
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(11-14-2023, 06:44 PM)Bhapaji Wrote: Hi,

I ran K9 admixture on 3281 Afro Eurasian samples, meaning I did not include Karitianas, Pimas, Suruis etc. in the Dataset. Since the focus was on India/Pakistan, I got a Balochistan component. It peaks in the Makrani, Balochi and Brahui people and is quite high for Punjabis, Pathans and Gujratis. It is also high for Caucasian populations.

The interesting component is the Bedouin component for me here.

HONine
Balochistan: 45.79%
Irulas: 31.78%
Nganassan: 2.32%
African Pygmies: 0.26%
Bedouins: 6.73%
Papuans: 0.54%
Finnish: 10.38%
Chinese: 0.24%
Chukchis: 1.95%

None of the Gujratis have scored more than 4%. Samples like 20858 and 20870 are quite likely more Iran N than me, meaning I have excess Levantine or Anatolian ancestry.

Here are the results for I8726, again Bedouin is not very high.

HONine
Balochistan: 60.24%
Irulas: 34.40%
Nganassan: 1.63%
African Pygmies: 0.36%
Bedouins: 3.23%
Papuans: 0.13%
Finnish: 0.00%
Chinese: 0.00%
Chukchis: 0.00%

Bedouins are admixed, you should use the mahra samples for a purer representation of the Arab component.
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(11-15-2023, 02:44 PM)Genetics189291 Wrote:
(11-14-2023, 06:44 PM)Bhapaji Wrote: Hi,

I ran K9 admixture on 3281 Afro Eurasian samples, meaning I did not include Karitianas, Pimas, Suruis etc. in the Dataset. Since the focus was on India/Pakistan, I got a Balochistan component. It peaks in the Makrani, Balochi and Brahui people and is quite high for Punjabis, Pathans and Gujratis. It is also high for Caucasian populations.

The interesting component is the Bedouin component for me here.

HONine
Balochistan: 45.79%
Irulas: 31.78%
Nganassan: 2.32%
African Pygmies: 0.26%
Bedouins: 6.73%
Papuans: 0.54%
Finnish: 10.38%
Chinese: 0.24%
Chukchis: 1.95%

None of the Gujratis have scored more than 4%. Samples like 20858 and 20870 are quite likely more Iran N than me, meaning I have excess Levantine or Anatolian ancestry.

Here are the results for I8726, again Bedouin is not very high.

HONine
Balochistan: 60.24%
Irulas: 34.40%
Nganassan: 1.63%
African Pygmies: 0.36%
Bedouins: 3.23%
Papuans: 0.13%
Finnish: 0.00%
Chinese: 0.00%
Chukchis: 0.00%

Bedouins are admixed, you should use the mahra samples for a purer representation of the Arab component.

Thanks for the suggestion, if I get access to the Data I will include them.
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(11-15-2023, 02:04 AM)ltnultihaxer Wrote: Can you share sources or a link to the calculator?

Hi, The Dodecad World K9 calculator is good, its got almost same components as my calculator, it has one additional Native American and only one Siberian component.
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results of a Teli man from Raipur..



Coverage: 72692 SNPs (38.63%)
S-Indian: 56.38
Baloch: 33.09
NE-Euro: 3.51
Beringian: 2.97
SE-Asian: 1.67
Siberian: 1.11
Papuan: 0.72
Mediterranean: 0.38
E-African: 0.18
Caucasian: 0
NE-Asian: 0
American: 0
SW-Asian: 0
San: 0
Pygmy: 0
W-African: 0
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