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G-Z6488
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Hi I made the test with 23andme and my y haplogroup was assigned as G-Z6488 without further specification. Then I Made the y clade test and gave me these results
 
Most specific position on the YFull YTree is G-PF3239 Link to G-PF3239 on YFull View heatmap on Y Heatmap View theoretical migration on PhyloGeographer
 
G-PF3239 FGC8011(?) PF3178($) PF3231(?) PF3239($) PF3240($) PF3244(?) PF3247(?) PF6846($) Y1778(?) Y1783/FGC5681(?) Z6043(?) Z6123(?) Z6126(?) Z6129(?) Z6130($) Z6132/Y2426/E269(?) Z6198(?) Z6200/S11565(?) Z6277(?) Z6282(?) Z6283($) Z6303(?) Z6309(?) Z6312($) Z6475/FGC5665(?) Z6476/FGC5666(?) Z6477/FGC5662($) Z6480/FGC5667($) Z6483/FGC5668(?) Z6486/FGC5669(?) Z6489/S23573/FGC5676(?) Z6490/FGC5677(?) Z6492/FGC5730($) Z6493/S19892/FGC8009(?) PAGE52/PAGE52.3/PAGE52.1/PAGE52.2/PF3228/PAGES00052/PAGES00052.1/PAGES00052.2/M11015/FGC5661+
┣━G-L166 FGC5671(?) FGC5672($) FGC5696($) FGC5721(?) FT191098/Y180152(?) L166($) L167- Y232879/C101821(?) Z6134($) Z6135/S10301(?) Z6206(?) Z6208(?) Z6209($) Z6219($) Z6220(?) Z6287(?) Z6288/S19530/Z6213(?) Z6499/FGC5712($) Z6516/FGC5675($) Z6519(?) Z1370/Z1370.2($)
┗━G-Z6494 FGC5673(?) FGC5687(?) Y126330/FT172194(?) Y38112(?) Z12230/FGC8006(?) Z6207($) Z6215($) Z6494/FGC5674($)
┗━G-Z6211 Z6211- Z6495/FGC5722($) Z6503(?) Z6507(?) Z6512(?) Z6513(?) Z6514(?) Z6518(?)
┗━G-Z6036 Z6036(?) Z6179($) Z6210($) Z6212(?) Z6214($) Z6217($) Z6497($) Z6500(?) Z6502($) Z6504(?) Z6505/Z6789(?) Z6506(?) Z6508(?) Z6509(?) Z6510(?) Z6517($)
┗━G-Z6802 BY180308(?) BY180368(?) BY180531(?) BY180915(?) BY209519(?) FT206363(?) FT215176(?) FT3104($) FT319396(?) FT324584(?) FT325758(?) FT88573(?) PF3143($) PF3157(?) PF3230(?) PF3232(?) PF3235(?) PF3236(?) PF3242(?) PF3249(?) PF6835($) PF6838($) Y18933($) Y358538(?) Y358539(?) Z31447($) Z46441(?) Z6037(?) Z6224($) Z6225(?) Z6226($) Z6236(?) Z6797(?) Z6798(?) Z6800(?) Z6802(?) Z6803(?) Z6804(?)
┗━G-Z6228 BY180234(?) BY180647(?) FT296940(?) Y18934(?) Y18935(?) Y18936($) Y18937($) Z6183(?) Z6186($) Z6227(?) Z6228(?) Z6229(?) Z6230(?) Z6231(?) Z6232(?) Z6234($) Z6237(?) Z6239($) Z6805($) Z6807($) Z6810($) Z6815(?) Z6816/YP4761($)
 
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YSEQ recommends the G2a-L1259 Panel Predicted G-PF3239 is downstream of the panel root. This panel may be applicable if it tests subclades below G-PF3239. Please verify and check with YSEQ customer support.
 
Next best prediction (scored 82 compared to 83) G-Z6484
 
 
 
I’m from southern calabria, my male lineage is from the grecophone area, I have genealogy since the first half of 17 century and the surname is attested in the area since the Middle ages. My haplogroup seems to have a sardinian or italian distribution. If it is sardinian that would be quite strange, if is not very ancient it could have come here in roman era or late antiquity, when both calabria and sardinia were bizantine, I doubt it is more recent. Haplogroup G is not that rare in Calabria but is difficult to understand what type of subclades are involved. Some are likely caucasian or levantine but it seems is not my case. There is someone who has any clues about the origin of my subclade?
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Considering that your paternal haplogroup is a subclade of G-L91, it may have been in Calabria since the introduction of agriculture to that region. G-L91 has been found in ancient remains from some of the earliest cultures to develop agriculture in Anatolia (modern-day Turkey). It was once a major paternal haplogroup among ancient Europeans.
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(04-03-2024, 02:13 PM)Logomaco Wrote: I’m from southern calabria, my male lineage is from the grecophone area, I have genealogy since the first half of 17 century and the surname is attested in the area since the Middle ages. My haplogroup seems to have a sardinian or italian distribution. If it is sardinian that would be quite strange, if is not very ancient it could have come here in roman era or late antiquity, when both calabria and sardinia were bizantine, I doubt it is more recent. Haplogroup G is not that rare in Calabria but is difficult to understand what type of subclades are involved. Some are likely caucasian or levantine but it seems is not my case. There is someone who has any clues about the origin of my subclade?

Hello, given that you're negative for L166 the most likely scenario is that you belong to the Neolithic Sardinian branch https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/G-PF3230/tree

This doesn't mean that the branch stayed in Sardinia forever, in fact we know that some Punic and Roman people carried Sardinian ancestry, for example.

It's not 100% sure you belong to that branch, theoretically you could belong in some undiscovered basal branch of PF3239. You won't know until you test deeper by doing FTDNA Big Y or a WGS test.
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(04-03-2024, 05:36 PM)pelop Wrote:
(04-03-2024, 02:13 PM)Logomaco Wrote: I’m from southern calabria, my male lineage is from the grecophone area, I have genealogy since the first half of 17 century and the surname is attested in the area since the Middle ages. My haplogroup seems to have a sardinian or italian distribution. If it is sardinian that would be quite strange, if is not very ancient it could have come here in roman era or late antiquity, when both calabria and sardinia were bizantine, I doubt it is more recent. Haplogroup G is not that rare in Calabria but is difficult to understand what type of subclades are involved. Some are likely caucasian or levantine but it seems is not my case. There is someone who has any clues about the origin of my subclade?

Hello, given that you're negative for L166 the most likely scenario is that you belong to the Neolithic Sardinian branch https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/G-PF3230/tree

This doesn't mean that the branch stayed in Sardinia forever, in fact we know that some Punic and Roman people carried Sardinian ancestry, for example.

It's not 100% sure you belong to that branch, theoretically you could belong in some undiscovered basal branch of PF3239. You won't know until you test deeper by doing FTDNA Big Y or a WGS test.

there tribe (Sanhadja of Srayr) berber from North Morocco are G2a-L91( Im not sure) and as well E-M81
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanhadja_de_Srayr
Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/G-FGC7477/tree
https://www.yfull.com/tree/G-Z5856/
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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(04-03-2024, 08:00 PM)Capsian20 Wrote:
(04-03-2024, 05:36 PM)pelop Wrote:
(04-03-2024, 02:13 PM)Logomaco Wrote: I’m from southern calabria, my male lineage is from the grecophone area, I have genealogy since the first half of 17 century and the surname is attested in the area since the Middle ages. My haplogroup seems to have a sardinian or italian distribution. If it is sardinian that would be quite strange, if is not very ancient it could have come here in roman era or late antiquity, when both calabria and sardinia were bizantine, I doubt it is more recent. Haplogroup G is not that rare in Calabria but is difficult to understand what type of subclades are involved. Some are likely caucasian or levantine but it seems is not my case. There is someone who has any clues about the origin of my subclade?

Hello, given that you're negative for L166 the most likely scenario is that you belong to the Neolithic Sardinian branch https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/G-PF3230/tree

This doesn't mean that the branch stayed in Sardinia forever, in fact we know that some Punic and Roman people carried Sardinian ancestry, for example.

It's not 100% sure you belong to that branch, theoretically you could belong in some undiscovered basal branch of PF3239. You won't know until you test deeper by doing FTDNA Big Y or a WGS test.

there tribe (Sanhadja of Srayr) berber from North Morocco are G2a-L91( Im not sure) and as well E-M81
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanhadja_de_Srayr
Also the Alawi dynasty of Morocco would be under G2a2a1a2-L91.
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