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#31
01-20-2024, 08:09 PM
(01-20-2024, 07:16 PM)jorchr Wrote: Can someone model this person's G25 coordinates below using ancient samples? Thank you.

CochinNai_scaled,0.045529,-0.052808,-0.152357,0.087533,-0.084939,0.048248,0.010105,0.016153,0.026793,0.014761,-0.004384,0.00015,-0.003271,-0.003578,-0.004479,-0.005436,0.002999,-0.00038,-0.001257,-0.012006,-0.003119,-0.007666,-0.005669,-0.001325,-0.002395

here you are.....a nair sample i  presume....?....seems to have no steppe admixture at all....instead he gets sarazm.which i see in all my nair samples...

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 2.6796% / 0.02679566

75.6
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2


9.6
TJK_Sarazm_En


7.0
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N


2.4
Anatolia_Barcin_N


2.0
Han


1.4
Nganassan


1.0
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N


1.0
MAR_Iberomaurusian
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#32
01-20-2024, 08:51 PM
i replaced SISBA2 with SISBA3...marginally better fit....but essentially the same..

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 2.3765% / 0.02376479
77.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3
9.6 TJK_Sarazm_En
9.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
1.6 Han
1.0 Nganassan
0.6 MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.4 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
0.2 Jarawa
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#33
01-22-2024, 01:42 PM
(01-20-2024, 07:16 PM)jorchr Wrote: Can someone model this person's G25 coordinates below using ancient samples? Thank you.

CochinNai_scaled,0.045529,-0.052808,-0.152357,0.087533,-0.084939,0.048248,0.010105,0.016153,0.026793,0.014761,-0.004384,0.00015,-0.003271,-0.003578,-0.004479,-0.005436,0.002999,-0.00038,-0.001257,-0.012006,-0.003119,-0.007666,-0.005669,-0.001325,-0.002395

Interesting sample, like Vishankar said 0 Steppe ancestry in this person but in its place quite a bit of Levantine related ancestry, I saw this in Todas and see it here as well.


sample: Custom:CochinNai scaled
distance: 2.2602
Telugu_GBR: 73.5
Levant_Ebla_EMBA: 10.5
Aigyrzhal_BA: 9
Sarazm_En: 7
Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA: 0
CG_IVCp: 0
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#34
02-11-2024, 06:32 PM
(01-20-2024, 08:09 PM)vishankar Wrote:
(01-20-2024, 07:16 PM)jorchr Wrote: Can someone model this person's G25 coordinates below using ancient samples? Thank you.

CochinNai_scaled,0.045529,-0.052808,-0.152357,0.087533,-0.084939,0.048248,0.010105,0.016153,0.026793,0.014761,-0.004384,0.00015,-0.003271,-0.003578,-0.004479,-0.005436,0.002999,-0.00038,-0.001257,-0.012006,-0.003119,-0.007666,-0.005669,-0.001325,-0.002395

here you are.....a nair sample i  presume....?....seems to have no steppe admixture at all....instead he gets sarazm.which i see in all my nair samples...

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 2.6796% / 0.02679566

75.6
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2


9.6
TJK_Sarazm_En


7.0
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N


2.4
Anatolia_Barcin_N


2.0
Han


1.4
Nganassan


1.0
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N


1.0
MAR_Iberomaurusian

I don’t see any Levantine ancestry in him but the ibm is interesting
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02-12-2024, 02:14 AM
(02-11-2024, 06:32 PM)Genetics189291 Wrote:
(01-20-2024, 08:09 PM)vishankar Wrote:
(01-20-2024, 07:16 PM)jorchr Wrote: Can someone model this person's G25 coordinates below using ancient samples? Thank you.

CochinNai_scaled,0.045529,-0.052808,-0.152357,0.087533,-0.084939,0.048248,0.010105,0.016153,0.026793,0.014761,-0.004384,0.00015,-0.003271,-0.003578,-0.004479,-0.005436,0.002999,-0.00038,-0.001257,-0.012006,-0.003119,-0.007666,-0.005669,-0.001325,-0.002395

here you are.....a nair sample i  presume....?....seems to have no steppe admixture at all....instead he gets sarazm.which i see in all my nair samples...

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 2.6796% / 0.02679566

75.6
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2


9.6
TJK_Sarazm_En


7.0
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N


2.4
Anatolia_Barcin_N


2.0
Han


1.4
Nganassan


1.0
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N


1.0
MAR_Iberomaurusian

I don’t see any Levantine ancestry in him but the ibm is interesting

that ibm- iberomaurasian ...is mostly from an ancient source....it is seen in many dravidian speakers  across caste and community.....possibly a prehistoric migration from north africa to the middle east and then India....
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#36
02-12-2024, 02:25 AM
I think his article will help for better understanding of the iberomaurasian people-

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28034339/
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04-14-2024, 11:05 PM (This post was last modified: 04-14-2024, 11:05 PM by ESPLover.)
[Image: 5jeZK8n.jpeg]

Heat map of my G25 coordinates. Credits to ph2ter for making this
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distance: 1.8387
Telugu_GBR: 67
AkMoustafa_MLBA: 16
Gonur_BA_o: 9.5
Parkhai_MBA: 7.5

sample:me
distance: 1.9161
Telugu_GBR: 66.5
Abusanteer_IA3: 33.5
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#38
04-14-2024, 11:31 PM
(01-20-2024, 07:16 PM)jorchr Wrote: Can someone model this person's G25 coordinates below using ancient samples? Thank you.

CochinNai_scaled,0.045529,-0.052808,-0.152357,0.087533,-0.084939,0.048248,0.010105,0.016153,0.026793,0.014761,-0.004384,0.00015,-0.003271,-0.003578,-0.004479,-0.005436,0.002999,-0.00038,-0.001257,-0.012006,-0.003119,-0.007666,-0.005669,-0.001325,-0.002395

Few different looks....

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 2.8585% / 0.02858502 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.0 NW_Indian
36.6 South_Indian
1.4 East_African_HG

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 2.6946% / 0.02694573 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.8 Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
8.6 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
8.0 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
3.4 Siberia_Uralic-like_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
1.8 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.4 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 1.7458% / 0.01745823 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.2 Iran_N
34.4 AASI
9.2 Anatolia_N
4.0 East_Asian
2.4 AG3
1.8 EHG

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 2.5299% / 0.02529864 | ADC: 0.25x RC
73.6 Indus_Periphery
18.2 Iran_Neolithic
4.8 Anatolia_Neolithic
3.4 Northern_Central_Asia_IA

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 3.1692% / 0.03169202 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.0 Southern_Asia_10KYA
33.0 Western_Iran_10KYA
14.0 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
7.2 Mazandaran_Golestan_10KYA
3.8 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
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#39
04-15-2024, 04:44 PM
qpAdm results for 2 Malayali Syrian Christian Nazranis.


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04-15-2024, 04:47 PM
One of the nasrani dudes is

45.6 SAHG
4.4 steppe
3.7 middle eastern
46.3 Indus Farmer

Other dude is

44.0 SAHG

6.0 Steppe
2.5 Middle eastern
47.5 Indus farmer

One of the Nazranis is from Kottayam and other dude from close to Chengannur.
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04-15-2024, 06:20 PM
(04-14-2024, 11:31 PM)AimSmall Wrote:
(01-20-2024, 07:16 PM)jorchr Wrote: Can someone model this person's G25 coordinates below using ancient samples? Thank you.

CochinNai_scaled,0.045529,-0.052808,-0.152357,0.087533,-0.084939,0.048248,0.010105,0.016153,0.026793,0.014761,-0.004384,0.00015,-0.003271,-0.003578,-0.004479,-0.005436,0.002999,-0.00038,-0.001257,-0.012006,-0.003119,-0.007666,-0.005669,-0.001325,-0.002395

Few different looks....

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 2.8585% / 0.02858502 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.0 NW_Indian
36.6 South_Indian
1.4 East_African_HG

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 2.6946% / 0.02694573 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.8 Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
8.6 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
8.0 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
3.4 Siberia_Uralic-like_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
1.8 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.4 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 1.7458% / 0.01745823 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.2 Iran_N
34.4 AASI
9.2 Anatolia_N
4.0 East_Asian
2.4 AG3
1.8 EHG

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 2.5299% / 0.02529864 | ADC: 0.25x RC
73.6 Indus_Periphery
18.2 Iran_Neolithic
4.8 Anatolia_Neolithic
3.4 Northern_Central_Asia_IA

Target: CochinNai_scaled
Distance: 3.1692% / 0.03169202 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.0 Southern_Asia_10KYA
33.0 Western_Iran_10KYA
14.0 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
7.2 Mazandaran_Golestan_10KYA
3.8 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA

This last run ...with mazandaran, proto yamnaya..is based on which calculator???
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04-15-2024, 06:54 PM (This post was last modified: 04-15-2024, 08:59 PM by AimSmall.)
Tomenable 10 Thousand Years Ago K42 - G25 calc
Coordinates and Calc

Might have been the K46 version.  Have to look when I get home.

I have a large collection of these.

UPDATE: Was K46 version

Had the Vahaduo graphic with it, don't recall if I made it or Tomenable did.  I just made the PCA and PhyloTree to get a feel for the collection.
Note: #Removed outlier "Africa(South)_Khoisan_Peoples" only because they are so distant from the other samples it caused the rest to pile up on each other.

   
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#43
04-17-2024, 03:42 PM
qpAdm model for Sintashta o1:

[Image: SIa2VN4.png]
[Image: BQAAahs.png]
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distance: 1.8387
Telugu_GBR: 67
AkMoustafa_MLBA: 16
Gonur_BA_o: 9.5
Parkhai_MBA: 7.5

sample:me
distance: 1.9161
Telugu_GBR: 66.5
Abusanteer_IA3: 33.5
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04-19-2024, 08:07 PM
Qpadm model for Saidu Sharif Outlier:
[Image: dx7BbNu.png]
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distance: 1.8387
Telugu_GBR: 67
AkMoustafa_MLBA: 16
Gonur_BA_o: 9.5
Parkhai_MBA: 7.5

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Telugu_GBR: 66.5
Abusanteer_IA3: 33.5
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