Puchov Culture

[leonardo]

I am by no means an expert on this subject but I have found some interesting connections bewteen the Puchov Culture and other nearby  cultures, groups or horizons - whatever term you prefer to use. For example, was the little known Tyniec Group at some point associated with the Puchov Culture at some point? The record indicates that the Tyniec Culture eventually moved northward into central and even northern Poland in the 1st century. Also, what was the relationship - if any - between the Puchov Culture, seen as a Celtic Culture, and the Dacians?

https://www.academia.edu/1455259/New_evi...ral_Poland

https://www.sav.sk/journals/uploads/0206..._Pieta.pdf

https://balkancelts.wordpress.com/tag/la...nt-poland/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland_in_antiquity

[leonardo]

Found this while doing a Google search for "Tyniec Group LaTene." It's an old article from 1991, a doctoral thesis it appears.

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/42604537.pdf

Here's an excerpt...
The traditional view of the situation in Slovakia and neighbouring regions has been summed up by
the Russian archaeologist Mark Shchuldn;74
'... in the second half of the Ist century BC
-
first half of the second century AD, a chain of
cultural formations began to take shape, the strongest of which were the Zemplin (CeltoDacian) and Püchov cultures and the Tyniec group, representing, of their type, a cultural
continuity. What united them initially was the direct and active participation of the Celtic
population and similar forms of economic activity, in particular mountain cattle rearing
with its inevitable seasonal drives of cattle, and what differentiated them was the difference
in local substrata and the role of Dacian elements, which faded away towards the north. '
(1989: 181)

 Another excerpt...
It is also referred to as the Tyniec group', Tyniec being the site of one of the
larger settlements of the group (Godlwsl i 1985). Wozniak (1970a) in accordance with the conventional
European 'ethno-cultural' view of archaeological material, has stated that the existence of the Tyniec
group should be explained as
'the remains of a mixed population ... a tribe composed of Celts and peoples of the
Przeworsk culture' (1970a: 261).

And one final excerpt...
This raises questions regarding the nature of the links between the Püchov culture,
the Tyniec group and the population of eastern Slovakia (part of the Celto-Dacian group), which, on this
evidence, differed from those relationships which existed with the societies to the south

[leonardo]

Another article on the Puchov Culture.
https://www.academia.edu/39672011/The_cu...card=title

[Riverman]

That's what I read before, Puchov is Celtic with other admixtures, especially Dacian.

[leonardo]

Another article on the Puchov Culture.
https://www.academia.edu/39672011/The_cu...card=title

Do you know anything about the Tyniec Group Riverman?

[Riverman]

Another article on the Puchov Culture.
https://www.academia.edu/39672011/The_cu...card=title

Do you know anything about the Tyniec Group Riverman?

Not really that much, but its supposed to be Celtic too, later with Germanics coming in and changing the local character of the population in a mixed group.

Compare:

Die ältere, mittellatènezeitliche Siedlung bewohnte keltische Bevölkerung. In der jüngeren vorrömischen Eisenzeit wurde hier eine Siedlung der Przeworsk-Kultur gegründet, die eine große Sammlung handgemachter Keramik lieferte. Hinzu kommt eine kleine Zahl von spätkeltischen Importen, darunter einige Exemplare scheibengedrehter, weiß-rot bemalter Keramik, die vermutlich aus Töpfereien stammen, die am Ende der Latènezeit in der Umgebung von Krakau wirkten.

Als Mitschöpfer der Tyniec-Gruppe gilt auch die Bevölkerung der frühen Przeworsk-Kultur, die ins westliche Kleinpolen aus dem weiter nördlich gelegenen Polnischen Tiefland kam. Ein Hinweis auf die Koexistenz dieser unterschiedlichen Kulturgruppen sind zahlreiche Siedlungsfundstellen.

After a mixed population, there came a next wave from Przeworsk.

https://www.academia.edu/41332617/Die_Be..._District_

[leonardo]

The other thing I find interesting is that, according to this map, remnants of the Zarubinsty Culture migrated into the Puchov. This map is form circa 100 CE, about the time the Zarubinsty was disintegrating and its people were on the move.

[Riverman]

What this map shows is what we later see, that the local population of the Carpathian basin in the Roman area was, before the Sarmatians, Celtic and Dacian, with a bit of Germanic thrown in. That's why if subtracting the non-locals, you get a lot of R-L2 and E-V13 up to the Avar period.