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Try this Euro Countries G25 calc (Scaled)
#16
Target: mjag_scaled
Chebyshev distance: 0.6905% / 0.00690517

12.4 Lithuanian
7.4 Belarusian
6.8 Latvian
6.6 Estonian
6.6 Finnish
6.4 Ukrainian
6.0 Polish
5.6 Slovenian
5.4 British
4.6 Slovakian
4.4 Russian
4.2 Norwegian
3.2 Danish
3.0 Dutch
2.8 Icelandic
2.6 Luxembourger
2.2 Croatian
1.8 Swedish
1.6 German
1.0 French
1.0 Macedonian
1.0 Irish
0.8 Romanian
0.8 Austrian
0.8 Serbian
0.6 Czech
0.2 Spanish
0.2 Andorran
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Ethnicity estimates (23andMe, Ancestry, MyHeritage, FTDNA, LivingDNA, 24Genetics, Ethnogene, GenePlaza): Baltic, East European, British/Irish (Scottish), French/German, Basque, Spanish, Finnish, Norwegian, Swedish/Danish, Chuvash, Tatar, Druze, Anatolian, WANA, Chinese/SE Asian, Central Asian, Sámi, Native American.
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#17
me:

Distance: 1.586%

Liechtensteiner: 37.9%
Norwegian: 37.3%
Spanish: 24.8%

dad:

Distance: 2.875%

Liechtensteiner: 66.0%
Norwegian: 19.4%
Finnish: 6.6%
Slovakian: 3.8%
Portuguese: 3.3%
Turkish: 0.9%

mom:

Distance: 1.855%

French: 40.7%
Irish: 21.5%
Liechtensteiner: 14.1%
Danish: 13.0%
Lithuanian: 6.6%
Swiss: 4.0%

wife:

Distance: 1.021%

Luxembourger: 45.8%
Dutch: 18.1%
Norwegian: 16.6%
British: 9.4%
Icelandic: 4.8%
Vatican: 2.1%
Maltese: 1.8%
Cypriot: 1.2%

fil:

Distance: 2.560%

Icelandic: 51.1%
British: 32.6%
Portuguese: 11.7%
Maltese: 4.6%
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#18
Distance to: Tolan_scaled
0.01511818 Belgian
0.01629107 Luxembourger
0.01989135 French
0.02507072 German
0.02827611 Swiss
0.02902546 Austrian
0.03031386 Dutch
0.03044409 British
0.03074384 Liechtensteiner
0.03702041 Irish
0.03951104 Danish
0.04162567 Andorran
0.04231605 Hungarian
0.04390587 Norwegian
0.04459914 Croatian
0.04459964 Icelandic
0.04532293 Slovenian
0.04756179 Czech
0.04802818 Montenegrin
0.04815141 Spanish
0.05007070 Serbian
0.05074104 Bosnian-Herzegovinian
0.05105100 Swedish
0.05156061 Monegasque
0.05298124 Romanian
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#19
Mom (Lebanese Chr + 1 Armenian great-grandparent)
Target: DewslothMom_scaled
Distance: 2.8965% / 0.02896547
85.8 Cypriot
14.2 Azerbaijani

Distance to: DewslothMom_scaled
0.03142212 Cypriot
0.07158501 Maltese
0.07960818 Azerbaijani
0.08482025 Turkish
0.08719419 Georgian
0.08918124 Vatican
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Dad:  (West German + British Colonial + minor Rhine Ashkenazi)
Target: DewslothDad_scaled
Distance: 1.0182% / 0.01018169
46.6 Dutch
30.4 Andorran
8.0 Macedonian
5.8 Liechtensteiner
4.0 Irish
3.4 Georgian
1.6 French
0.2 Vatican

Distance to: DewslothDad_scaled
0.01519420 Luxembourger
0.01589814 Belgian
0.01683311 French
0.02084644 Swiss
0.02117271 Liechtensteiner
0.02699974 German
0.02847689 Austrian
0.03244832 Dutch
0.03393314 British
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Me (Mom + Dad)
Target: Dewsloth_scaled
Distance: 1.4362% / 0.01436168
55.0 Cypriot
26.2 Irish
8.0 Maltese
6.6 Dutch
4.2 Azerbaijani

Distance to: Dewsloth_scaled
0.02919398 Vatican
0.03076820 Italian
0.03267328 Greek
0.03327639 Sammarinese
0.03711588 Maltese
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R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583; John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593; John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635
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#20
As was predictable...

Distance to: Andour_scaled
0.02270778 French
0.02506501 Luxembourger
0.02557828 Swiss
0.02851515 Andorran
0.03336611 Liechtensteiner
0.03391115 Belgian
0.03391712 Spanish
0.03753471 Monegasque
0.04213134 Portuguese
0.04717314 German
0.04725969 Austrian
0.05116303 British

Target: Andour_scaled -- Distance: 1.8828% / 0.01882848
62.4 Luxembourger
27.2 Spanish
6.4 Albanian
4.0 Sammarinese
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#21
For the attention of our Portuguese folks here...

My Portuguese son-in-law hails from Minho, North-Portugal, where the Suebi settled in late Antiquity. His Y haplogroup is a subclade of U106. Whatever the model used, he always seems to need some Northern / North-Eastern European component to get modelled properly (usually around 10%). This is again confirmed here. With all due caution, there might be something of interest in his results for the ethnogenesis of the North Portuguese.

Distance to: AR_scaled
0.01854007 Portuguese
0.02410463 Spanish
0.02611469 Andorran
0.03529821 Monegasque
0.03670509 French
0.03757397 Swiss
0.04192055 Liechtensteiner
0.04236322 Luxembourger
0.05096769 Belgian

Target: AR_scaled -- Distance: 1.5136% / 0.01513647
83.2 Portuguese
7.6 Spanish
5.6 Danish
3.6 Latvian
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#22
me , dad and mom

Target: Miquel_scaled
Distance: 1.5555% / 0.01555485
68.8 Portuguese
25.4 Andorran
5.4 Vatican
0.4 Irish

Target: MiquelRomanRomanton_scaled
Distance: 2.3421% / 0.02342128
45.4 Spanish
28.8 Andorran
25.8 Portuguese

Target: encarnaVP_scaled
Distance: 2.3635% / 0.02363546
51.4 Spanish
28.8 Portuguese
12.6 Maltese
7.2 Georgian

Distance to: Miquel_scaled
0.01704390 Portuguese
0.02310626 Spanish
0.02453570 Andorran
0.02970140 Monegasque
0.03934036 Swiss
0.04133225 French
0.04638367 Liechtensteiner
0.04890710 Luxembourger
0.04947563 Sammarinese
0.05182236 Italian
0.05803496 Belgian
0.05866266 Vatican
0.06340042 Albanian
0.06455135 Romanian
0.06479647 Bulgarian
0.06688025 Montenegrin
0.06797886 Macedonian
0.06972793 Austrian
0.06988067 Moldovan
0.07082400 Serbian
0.07113944 Greek
0.07200251 German
0.07514753 Maltese
0.07548327 British
0.07558078 Dutch
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#23
(03-27-2024, 08:04 PM)Andour Wrote: For the attention of our Portuguese folks here... 

My Portuguese son-in-law hails from Minho, North-Portugal, where the Suebi settled in late Antiquity. His Y haplogroup is a subclade of U106. Whatever the model used, he always seems to need some Northern / North-Eastern European component to get modelled properly (usually around 10%). This is again confirmed here. With all due caution, there might be something of interest in his results for the ethnogenesis of the North Portuguese.

Distance to: AR_scaled
0.01854007 Portuguese
0.02410463 Spanish
0.02611469 Andorran
0.03529821 Monegasque
0.03670509 French
0.03757397 Swiss
0.04192055 Liechtensteiner
0.04236322 Luxembourger
0.05096769 Belgian

Target: AR_scaled -- Distance: 1.5136% / 0.01513647
83.2 Portuguese
7.6 Spanish
5.6 Danish
3.6 Latvian

Interesting. Do you have his official G25 coords? I've never seen one from northern Portugal. I have ancestry from Minho.
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#24
(03-27-2024, 08:43 PM)cheshire Wrote: Interesting. Do you have his official G25 coords? I've never seen one from northern Portugal. I have ancestry from Minho.

Here they are :

Scaled :

AR_scaled,0.106994,0.148267,0.042615,0.003553,0.042469,-0.003347,-0.00047,0.003,0.025565,0.024055,-0.009581,0.005395,-0.009812,-0.010597,0.013708,0.00053,0.000652,-0.001014,-0.009176,0.003001,0.000749,-0.001607,0.000246,-0.001566,-0.007544

Raw :

AR,0.0094,0.0146,0.0113,0.0011,0.0138,-0.0012,-0.0002,0.0013,0.0125,0.0132,-0.0059,0.0036,-0.0066,-0.0077,0.0101,0.0004,0.0005,-0.0008,-0.0073,0.0024,0.0006,-0.0013,0.0002,-0.0013,-0.0063

He was born in Melgaço, near the Galician border. When Galician samples are included, his results are usually fairly equally split between Portuguese and Galician.

I think Ruderico (Sailgios) here on the forum is also native to North Portugal. He might prove more knowledgeable than me if you wish to dig into this.
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#25
Mom from Normandy :

Target: MedafsMom_scaled
Distance: 3.5361% / 0.03536093

38.8 French
36.2 Danish
25.0 Liechtensteiner

Me (Normand and Tunisian) :

Target: Mehdi_scaled
Distance: 1.9881% / 0.01988065

30.8 Irish
22.0 Liechtensteiner
20.6 Tunisian
12.6 Portuguese
6.8 Maltese
4.4 Vatican
2.8 Norwegian
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#26
Trying this with only known countries and related regions.

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7020% / 0.01702028
54.2 Danish
29.2 Irish
16.6 Italian




Italian,0.1151958,0.1475866,0.0108294,-0.0254993,0.0231834,-0.0089355,0.0007987,-0.0001544,0.006818,0.0221017,0.0002916,0.0047662,-0.0087443,-0.0029894,-0.0037797,-0.0010598,0.002475,0.0004414,0.0027408,-0.003928,-0.0019521,0.0016186,-0.0004722,0.0023418,-0.0004522

British,0.1312819,0.1370484,0.0613307,0.0444548,0.0400309,0.0167123,0.0036191,0.0059799,0.0054999,0.0049223,-0.0049593,0.0058332,-0.0126487,-0.0112413,0.0214239,0.0037886,-0.0109033,0.0027153,0.003134,0.002135,0.0050956,0.003438,-0.0009444,0.013017,0.0000985

Danish,0.1312479,0.1350654,0.0663779,0.0524377,0.0413029,0.0194569,0.0051584,0.0074014,0.0034365,-0.002558,-0.0053588,0.0034802,-0.0085067,-0.0070935,0.0186691,0.0061171,-0.0065193,0.0020474,0.0032402,0.0043462,0.0056397,0.0024349,0.0006923,0.013774,0.0002011

German,0.1302626,0.1373792,0.0579811,0.0387068,0.0400035,0.0156461,0.0040665,0.0057865,0.003526,0.00188,-0.0044133,0.0023732,-0.0053706,-0.0025417,0.0085125,0.0032913,-0.0032728,0.0016631,0.0033669,0.0017191,0.00314,0.002005,7.18e-05,0.0083052,0.0002774

Irish,0.1333186,0.1341208,0.0612032,0.048942,0.0377887,0.0193569,0.0033392,0.0047413,0.0035363,0.0029941,-0.0069657,0.0058675,-0.014223,-0.0141175,0.0259525,0.0052203,-0.0111418,0.0018621,0.0005247,0.0017886,0.0050493,0.0013559,0.0002436,0.0144136,0.0006071
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#27
(03-28-2024, 08:24 AM)Andour Wrote:
(03-27-2024, 08:43 PM)cheshire Wrote: Interesting. Do you have his official G25 coords? I've never seen one from northern Portugal. I have ancestry from Minho.

Here they are :

Scaled :

AR_scaled,0.106994,0.148267,0.042615,0.003553,0.042469,-0.003347,-0.00047,0.003,0.025565,0.024055,-0.009581,0.005395,-0.009812,-0.010597,0.013708,0.00053,0.000652,-0.001014,-0.009176,0.003001,0.000749,-0.001607,0.000246,-0.001566,-0.007544

Raw :

AR,0.0094,0.0146,0.0113,0.0011,0.0138,-0.0012,-0.0002,0.0013,0.0125,0.0132,-0.0059,0.0036,-0.0066,-0.0077,0.0101,0.0004,0.0005,-0.0008,-0.0073,0.0024,0.0006,-0.0013,0.0002,-0.0013,-0.0063

He was born in Melgaço, near the Galician border. When Galician samples are included, his results are usually fairly equally split between Portuguese and Galician.

I think Ruderico (Sailgios) here on the forum is also native to North Portugal. He might prove more knowledgeable than me if you wish to dig into this.

Yes, he does tend to Galicians first.

Target: AR_scaled
Distance: 1.5076% / 0.01507624
67.4 Celtic_Gaulish
11.8 Berber
10.0 Celtic_Iberia
7.4 Levantine
3.4 Celtic_Brythonic_Southwest

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Thanks for sharing!
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#28
post #27 results

Target: Moeca_scaled
Distance: 0.0250% / 0.02502107
64.2 Italian
31.3 German
4.5 British


myheritage results
Europe
Italian  64.1% 
    Italy (Veneto and Lombardy)

Balkan  16.8%

Irish, Scottish, and Welsh  16.1%

Greek and South Italian  3.0%
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Maternal side yDna branch is   R1b - S8172
Paternal Grandfather mother's line is    I1- Z131 - A9804

Veneto 75.8%, Austria 5%, Saarland 3.4%, Friuli 3.2%, Trentino 2.6%, Donau Schwaben 1%, Marche 0.8%

BC Ancient Sites I am connected to, Wels Austria, Sipar Istria and Gissa Dalmatia
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#29
Top 20 by distance:

Quote:Distance to: Riverman_scaled
0.01931619 Austrian
0.02343331 German
0.02509886 Hungarian
0.02664833 Belgian
0.02784612 Croatian
0.02935395 Slovenian
0.03106017 Montenegrin
0.03175136 Bosnian-Herzegovinian
0.03236219 Serbian
0.03245555 Luxembourger
0.03325040 Liechtensteiner
0.03465155 Swiss
0.03465883 Dutch
0.03495526 Moldovan
0.03620282 Czech
0.03721996 French
0.03728623 Romanian
0.03928431 British
0.04238082 Danish
0.04380833 Macedonian


Admixture:

Quote:Target: Riverman_scaled
Distance: 1.1945% / 0.01194454 | ADC: 0.25x RC

67.4 German
15.2 Macedonian
11.4 Hungarian
6.0 Georgian
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#30
Dad Flemish ( Nord-Pas-de-Calais )

Target: Pascal_scaled
Distance: 1.3224% / 0.01322361 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.8 Irish
29.2 British
15.8 Portuguese
13.2 Slovakian
3.0 French

Distance to: Pascal_scaled
0.01777299 Dutch
0.01810986 British
0.01928276 Belgian
0.02130059 German
0.02351452 Irish

Mom ( Serb_Dalmatia)

Target: Mira_scaled
Distance: 1.4874% / 0.01487351 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.6 Croatian
22.0 Bulgarian
5.4 Azerbaijani
4.8 Irish
4.0 Serbian
3.0 Georgian
1.2 Belgian

Distance to: Mira_scaled
0.02013357 Moldovan
0.02052949 Serbian
0.02330944 Montenegrin
0.02387846 Romanian
0.02562161 Bosnian-Herzegovinian

Me

Distance to: Q_S_scaled
0.01470714 Austrian
0.02374886 German
0.02515891 Belgian
0.02568875 Hungarian
0.02700158 Croatian

Target: Q_S_scaled
Distance: 1.1756% / 0.01175580 | ADC: 0.25x RC
75.8 Austrian
13.2 Belgian
7.4 Swiss
3.6 Azerbaijani

Without Austrian

Target: Q_S_scaled
Distance: 1.3240% / 0.01323984 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.2 Belgian
24.4 Croatian
18.0 Slovenian
7.2 Liechtensteiner
3.2 Azerbaijani
1.0 Turkish
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