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Hanoverian Wends (the Wendlanders)
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They were a West Slavic ethnicity and a linguistic group, indigenous to the regions of Wendland (German: Hannoversches Wendland) and Drawehn, located to the west of the Elbe River, in the Duchy of Brunswick-Lüneburg (now the county of Lüchow-Dannenberg in Lower Saxony). They spoke a now extinct language known as Drevani Polabian (German: Dravänopolabisch), a variety of Western Polabian, distinct from Common Polabian or Eastern Polabian.

Early History

It is believed, that Hanoverian Wends (Hannoverschen Wenden) emerged mainly from an Early Medieval tribe known as Drevani (Drevanen), first mentioned in 1004 AD. The history of the Drevani until 1300, in the context of wider Polabian history, deserves a separate entry.

Late Middle Ages

At least until 1317, Wendland and the heavily wooded and hilly region of Drawehn remained untouched by the Ostsiedlung and isolated from the outside world due to their remoteness and poor conditions for agriculture. Most of the populace was rural and lived off fishing, beekeeping, hunting, animal husbandry (including pigs, cows and goats), as well as subsistence farming. Due to increasing trade with newly emerging cities, by the end of the 16th century money-goods economy gradually replaced barter. At the turns of the Late Middle Ages and Early Modern Period, in parts of Lower Saxony located west of the Elbe, Slavic was spoken in a compact area between Lauenburg an der Elbe, Boizenburg, Lübtheen, Dömitz, Lenze, Gartow, Wittenberge, Werben, Arendsee, Salzwedel, Brome, Uelzen and Lüneburg.[1] At that time, their neigbours east of the Elbe, between Hagenow (Mecklenburg) and Perleberg (Prignitz), were also Slavic-speakers, but - unlike Hanoverian Wends - they would soon become Germanized.[2]

Early Modern Period

As of 1600, Hanoverian Wends inhabited an area of ~350 square miles (~900 square km), including over 120 villages, as well as in several towns (but in towns they were usually a minority, outnumbered by Germans). Their population at that time can be estimated as around 15,000-20,000 people - about as numerous as Finnic-speaking Livs were at the time. Slavic-speaking population inhabited such villages as Belitz, Beutow, Jabel, Klennow, Kremlin, Mammoißel, Predöhlsau, Lensian, Reetze, Süthen, Volzendorf, Küsten, Trebel, Dolgow, Suhlendorf and many others.[3][4] Their settlements were often villages with distinct circular shape, the Rundling form, easy to distinguish from German villages founded during the Ostsiedlung. In the 18th century, economic prosperity in Wendland led to the increase of the number of blacksmith workshops, cooper workshops, wheelwright workshops and other enterprises. Flax started to be farmed, as well as potatoes introduced from the Americas. Sheep farming increased.

Maps of Slavic-speaking area in Wendland ca. 1600:

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During the 17th and 18th centuries - later than their German neighbours - Wendlanders started to convert to Lutheranism. That facilitated the process of Germanization and gradual disappearance of the distinct ethnic identity of Hanoverian Wends as well as their Slavic language. Numerous German loanwords appeared.[5] The process of language shift started to take place.

The richest source of information on the Drawänopolabian language is the "Vocabularium Venedicum" of Christian Hennig von Jessen (1649-1719), who was the Lutheran pastor of Wustrow since 1679 until his death. He learned the language mainly from Johann Janieschge, a peasant from the village of Klennow.[6] Johann Parum Schultze (1677-1740) is the only Hanoverian Wend who speaks to us directly in the name of his people. He wrote memoirs of his life in the Wendland, as well as a Wendish-German dictionary, which was later published by J. H. Jungler (1758-1812), who was researching the language and culture of Wendland.

Germanization

Throughout the 18th century, native Slavic (Wendish) speech in Wendland and Drawehn was already in full decline, being replaced by German.

It is not clear when did the Drawänopolabian get extinct. Emerentz Schultze, who died in Dolgau in October 1756, is said to be one of the last native speakers fully fluent in the language. But in 1798 in the village of Kremlin (north-west of Dolgau) died a man named Warratz, who had been capable of reciting the Lord's Prayer in Wendish. In 1832, "Neues vaterländisches Archiv" - a local newspaper - reported that some old peasants in the region could still speak Slavic.[1] Similar rumours appeared again in 1845, and then in the second half of the 19th century in the area of Salzwedel. Ethnographer F. Tetzner in 1902 learned from an old teacher, that in Küsten near Lüchow some Slavic phrases, sayings and sentences were still in use in everyday language. In the census of 1890 in Kreis Lüchow, 585 people still declared their ethnicity as Wendish.[7]

Norwegian scientist E. Westerlund, who came to Wendland in 1914 to research the language of local populace, found only German-speakers.

Culture

According to pastor Hennig von Jessen (1649-1719), they used to eat six meals a day: 1. pridubed (pre-lunch or breakfast), 2. vubod (lunch), 3. predjauzeinak (pre-dinner), 4. jauzeina (dinner), 5. pridcerek (afternoon snack) and 6. vicera (supper). Houses were usually made from clay, bricks, wood and with use of the half-timbered technology. Basketry, woodcarving and weaving were popular. Until 1870-1880 traditional folk costumes were in use as everyday casual outfits.[1]

Physique

When in the late 19th century V. Jagic asked prof. Zimmer from Greifswald about the living descendants of Hanoverian Wends, he replied (based on information he got in a letter from Mr. Knesebeck, a district administrative official in Kreis Lüchow), that they tend to have sharp facial features, usually dark hair, and are loquacious.[1]

Demographics

In 1600, Hanoverian Wends numbered ca. 20,000 people (est.), down to 585 people in 1890 (census, self-identified). The number of their German descendants has to be much higher.

British Crown

Hanoverian Wends were subjects of several British kings, due to the fact that those kings were also rulers of the Electorate of Hanover.

References

[1] Fischer, Adam (1932). "Etnografja Słowiańska. Połabianie" (in Polish). Lvov-Warsaw: Książnica-Atlas. pp. 1–41.
[2] Sengebusch, Adam (2010). Wspomnienia o Słowianach Połabskich (in Polish). Artykuły własne Historycy.org. p. 73.
[3] Liste der Siedlungen des Landkreises Lüchow-Dannenberg (Wikipedia.de)
[4] Sengebusch, Adam (March 2011). "Wspomnienie o Słowianach Połabskich - Drzewianie". Koszalin7 (in Polish).
[5] Szydłowska-Cegłowa, Barbara (1962). "Material Folk Culture of the Polabian Tribe of Drzewianie (Draven Slavs) in the Light of Lexical Investigations". Lud (in English and Polish). 48-14: 639–641 – via Cyfrowa Etnografia.
[6] Stone, Gerald (2015). "Slav Outposts in Central European History: The Wends, Sorbs and Kashubs". New York: Bloomsbury Academic. Chapter 5. "From Pietism to Enlightenment, 1700–1800". ISBN 978-1472592095.
[7] Jagic, V.; et al. (1900). Archiv für slavische Philologie. Berlin: Weidmannsche Buchhandlung. Volume 22, pp. 318–320.

Literature

Marek Tabert, "The Forgotten Country of the Drevani of Polabians", 2010.
S. Kozierowski, "Atlas of Western Slav Geographical Names" Part IIA, 1937.
Eric Christiansen, "The Northern Crusades: Second Edition", London 1998.
Jan M. Piskorski, "The Rural Colonization of Western Pomerania", Poznań 2005.
David S. Bachrach, "Warfare in Tenth-Century Germany", Woodbridge 2012.
Paul Rost, "Die Sprachreste der Draväno-Polaben im Hannöverschen", Leipzig 1907.
Ernst W. Selmer, "Sprachstudien im Lüneburger Wendland", Kristiania 1918.
R. Olesch, "Zur Geographischen Verbreitung des Dravänopolabischen", 1971.
R. Olesch, "Gesammelte Aufsätze. I. Dravaenopolabica", 1989.
K. Kowalewski, "Die Wendland-Chronik des Dorfschulzen Johann Parum Schultze aus Süthen, geschrieben in der ersten Hälfte des 18. Jahrhunderts", 1991
A. Firckse, "Die preußische Bevölkerung nach ihrer Muttersprache", 1893.
Jerzy Strzelczyk, "Die slawische Minderheit in Deutschland...", Toruń 1994.
"Johann Parum Schultze 1677–1740", joint publication, Lüchow 1989.
T. Saile, "Slawen in Niedersachsen...", Neumünster 2007.
"Vendlandische Volkstrachten", joint publication, Lüchow 1992.
K. Arnošt Muka, "Szczątki języka połabskiego Wendów Luneburskich", Cracow 1904.
A. Parczewski, "Potomkowie Słowian w Hanowerskim", Warsaw 1899.
J. Heydzianka-Piłatowa, "Przebieg wynarodowienia Drzewian połabskich w świetle kroniki chłopskiej Jana Parum Schulzego", 1980.
K. Polański, "Problem różnic gwarowych w języku połabskim", 1965.
E. Siatkowska, "Rodzina języków zachodniosłowiańskich...", Warsaw 1992.
Robert F. Barkowski, "Słowianie Połabscy. Dzieje Zagłady", Warsaw 2015.
Jerzy Strzelczyk, "Słowianie Połabscy", Poznań 2013.
Andrzej Michałek, "Słowianie Zachodni", Warsaw 2007.
J. Strzelczyk, "Słowiańszczyzna połabska między Niemcami a Polską", Poznań 1980.
A. Turasiewicz, "Dzieje polityczne Obodrzyców...", Cracow 2004.
Robert F. Barkowski, "Połabie 983", Warsaw 2015.
Z. Kossak, Z. Szatkowski, "Troja Północy" ("Troy of the North"), Warsaw 1986.
K. Hierasimowicz (2006): Język połabski.
L. Hrabova, "Stopy zapomenuteho lidu. Obraz dejin Polabskych Slovanu u historiografii", Ceske Budejovice 2006.

Map of modern Wendland:

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the Wends from what I recall where butchered in the Wendish crusade

https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/articl...1147-1185/

and ended up in silesia

I have 2 x German Silesian friends who seem to be different from other germans and completly different from slavs

both are part of this organization

https://www.wendishheritage.org.au/
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Maternal side yDna branch is   R1b - S8172
Paternal Grandfather mother's line is    I1- Z131 - A9804

Veneto 75.8%, Austria 5%, Saarland 3.4%, Friuli 3.2%, Trentino 2.6%, Donau Schwaben 1%, Marche 0.8%

BC Ancient Sites I am connected to, Wels Austria, Sipar Istria and Gissa Dalmatia
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(03-20-2024, 07:52 PM)Moeca Wrote: the Wends from what I recall where butchered in the Wendish crusade

https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/articl...1147-1185/

Not all of them, only those who refused to convert to Christianity.
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(03-20-2024, 07:52 PM)Moeca Wrote: I have 2 x German Silesian friends who seem to be different from other germans and completly different from slavs

German Silesians are a mixture of Western German settlers who came to Silesia and local Polish Slavs.

If you read in German here is a good book in German about this subject (and in English there is the "Cuius Regio" series, I will post links below), Karl Weinhold, "Die Verbreitung und die Herkunft der Deutschen in Schlesien" (1887):

https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_CqpCAAAAIAAJ

Also Joseph Partsch's book "Schlesien" (in German), two volumes:

http://www.sbc.org.pl/dlibra/docmetadata...ds=1&tab=1

https://www.sbc.org.pl/dlibra/publicatio...16&dirds=1

And here a book in German about ethnically Polish Silesians:

https://archive.org/details/diepoleninobersc00webeuoft

https://books.google.pl/books?id=VN7vBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA13

And here something in English about Silesian Poles:

https://archive.org/details/polesunderprussi00kozi

And "Cuius Regio" series in English, five volumes in total:

Volume I covers years 1000-1526:

http://www.bibliotekacyfrowa.pl/Content/..._vol_1.pdf

Volume II covers years 1526-1740:

http://www.bibliotekacyfrowa.pl/Content/..._vol_2.pdf

Volume III begins with Prussian takeover of Silesia in the 1740s:

https://www.bibliotekacyfrowa.pl/dlibra/...21/content
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Has anyone ever done a haplogroup study on the Hanover Wends? I imagine there would be a lot of R-L365, the Pomeranian cluster. They would have M458, but not as much as the Sorbs, who have 57%.
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(03-21-2024, 05:56 PM)Vinitharya Wrote: Has anyone ever done a haplogroup study on the Hanover Wends? I imagine there would be a lot of R-L365, the Pomeranian cluster. They would have M458, but not as much as the Sorbs, who have 57%.

Just speculating, but I think there would be a noticeable portion with L1029. The Polabians seemed to have a fair share, as seen in the branches throughout the found today in the British Isles and Ireland.
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(03-21-2024, 10:48 PM)leonardo Wrote:
(03-21-2024, 05:56 PM)Vinitharya Wrote: Has anyone ever done a haplogroup study on the Hanover Wends?  I imagine there would be a lot of R-L365, the Pomeranian cluster.  They would have M458, but not as much as the Sorbs, who have 57%.

Just speculating, but I think there would be a noticeable portion with L1029. The Polabians seemed to have a fair share, as seen in the branches throughout the found today in the British Isles and Ireland.

not sure how related but i stumbled over 23andme Discovery
and people with the surname Wendt have L1029 as their top Haplogroup

(checked out my own surname (though not on 23andme) but ! surprise surprise ! likewise L1029)
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