03-20-2024, 04:38 PM
https://www.theytree.com/sample/b7d558e9...8262b.html found this from a friend it's from the allentoft paper just listed as I but here it i1 could this be double checked.
Haplogroup i1 ukraine mesolithic?!
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03-20-2024, 04:38 PM
https://www.theytree.com/sample/b7d558e9...8262b.html found this from a friend it's from the allentoft paper just listed as I but here it i1 could this be double checked.
03-20-2024, 05:22 PM
(03-20-2024, 04:38 PM)xdleer Wrote: https://www.theytree.com/sample/b7d558e9...8262b.html found this from a friend it's from the allentoft paper just listed as I but here it i1 could this be double checked. interesting maybe @JonikW he is have info about this
Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049 37.2 Iberomaurusian 36.8 Early_European_Farmer 12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer 8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist 4.8 SSA 0.4 Iran_Neolithic FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2 Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta + 3% Iberian Peninsula 23andME : 100% North Africa WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA) Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
03-20-2024, 10:19 PM
(03-20-2024, 05:22 PM)Capsian20 Wrote:(03-20-2024, 04:38 PM)xdleer Wrote: https://www.theytree.com/sample/b7d558e9...8262b.html found this from a friend it's from the allentoft paper just listed as I but here it i1 could this be double checked. Sorry to say I don't know anything about it, Capsian and xdleer. I imagine that's a wrong call on I1 given the date but have no info. I only remember a Magaryan VK sample from Ukraine and this: Middle Bronze Age, Chyleński et al, 2023. Z141 - poz643 - Komarov/Trzciniec culture, Beremiany, West-Ukraine radiocarbon dated to 1919-1701 BCE (Poz-61777, 3500 ± 30 BP). mtDNA W6a
Y: I1 Z140+ FT354410+; mtDNA: V78
Recent tree: mainly West Country England and Southeast Wales Y line: Peak District, c.1300. Swedish IA/VA matches; last = 715AD YFull, 849AD FTDNA mtDNA: Llanvihangel Pont-y-moile, 1825 Mother's Y: R-BY11922+; Llanvair Discoed, 1770 Avatar: Welsh Borders hillfort, 1980s Anthrogenica member 2015-23
03-20-2024, 10:23 PM
(03-20-2024, 10:19 PM)JonikW Wrote:(03-20-2024, 05:22 PM)Capsian20 Wrote:(03-20-2024, 04:38 PM)xdleer Wrote: https://www.theytree.com/sample/b7d558e9...8262b.html found this from a friend it's from the allentoft paper just listed as I but here it i1 could this be double checked. oh okay thanks you i was think you have info , i was looking i see this sample it's I-M170 but i think it's likely I2
Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049 37.2 Iberomaurusian 36.8 Early_European_Farmer 12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer 8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist 4.8 SSA 0.4 Iran_Neolithic FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2 Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta + 3% Iberian Peninsula 23andME : 100% North Africa WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA) Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
03-20-2024, 10:32 PM
(03-20-2024, 10:23 PM)Capsian20 Wrote:(03-20-2024, 10:19 PM)JonikW Wrote:(03-20-2024, 05:22 PM)Capsian20 Wrote:(03-20-2024, 04:38 PM)xdleer Wrote: https://www.theytree.com/sample/b7d558e9...8262b.html found this from a friend it's from the allentoft paper just listed as I but here it i1 could this be double checked. No probs at all. I think you must be right Capsian.
Y: I1 Z140+ FT354410+; mtDNA: V78
Recent tree: mainly West Country England and Southeast Wales Y line: Peak District, c.1300. Swedish IA/VA matches; last = 715AD YFull, 849AD FTDNA mtDNA: Llanvihangel Pont-y-moile, 1825 Mother's Y: R-BY11922+; Llanvair Discoed, 1770 Avatar: Welsh Borders hillfort, 1980s Anthrogenica member 2015-23
03-21-2024, 12:45 PM
This sample is 7Mega bytes. I am pretty sure its wrongly positioned. Maybe Contaminated
(03-21-2024, 12:45 PM)sirdan Wrote: This sample is 7Mega bytes. I am pretty sure its wrongly positioned. Maybe Contaminated I have downloadable kit for the sample https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ahzqOEk...sp=sharing have a go on yseq it has m253
03-21-2024, 01:29 PM
Can you show the yseq output?
03-21-2024, 02:52 PM
Something badly wrong here for sure. I see TheYtree link at the beginning of this thread has the sample as I-Y7140. That's Z140+, and I-Y7140 has a mean TMRCA of 154 BCE according to FTDNA. Couldn't possibly be Mesolithic. Shame because Ukraine would have been such a nice simple solution for I1. :-)
Y: I1 Z140+ FT354410+; mtDNA: V78
Recent tree: mainly West Country England and Southeast Wales Y line: Peak District, c.1300. Swedish IA/VA matches; last = 715AD YFull, 849AD FTDNA mtDNA: Llanvihangel Pont-y-moile, 1825 Mother's Y: R-BY11922+; Llanvair Discoed, 1770 Avatar: Welsh Borders hillfort, 1980s Anthrogenica member 2015-23
03-21-2024, 03:18 PM
I see in this file its Negative a SNP CTS11042/S66 (I1)
Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049 37.2 Iberomaurusian 36.8 Early_European_Farmer 12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer 8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist 4.8 SSA 0.4 Iran_Neolithic FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2 Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta + 3% Iberian Peninsula 23andME : 100% North Africa WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA) Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
03-21-2024, 05:16 PM
(03-21-2024, 03:18 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: I see in this file its Negative a SNP CTS11042/S66 (I1) Odd but it shows all the other snps I assume this means that's the call for the overall assignment of the person so he should be classified as I based on what the snps they can confidenty say is there in consistency so this is just a lowcoverage sample in my opinion because its clear has some i1 stuff it's just the call is not gonna be i1 because its lack a bunch of other stuff
03-21-2024, 06:10 PM
(03-21-2024, 05:16 PM)xdleer Wrote:(03-21-2024, 03:18 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: I see in this file its Negative a SNP CTS11042/S66 (I1) I was checking now in MorleyDNA its Negative to SNP I1 and Positive a SNP Hg IJ , but no read for SNP Hg I2 So it's possible this sample belong a Hg I2 ?
Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049 37.2 Iberomaurusian 36.8 Early_European_Farmer 12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer 8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist 4.8 SSA 0.4 Iran_Neolithic FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2 Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta + 3% Iberian Peninsula 23andME : 100% North Africa WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA) Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
03-22-2024, 06:41 AM
This sample is just fail. Snipsa detected only two reads CTS4637 and CTS8420/PF3773 at whole I level. See no point to analyze it further.
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