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If there are studies with data that hasnt been converted to G25 provide them here
#61
So where did the G25 coordinates for Georgia_UP_Dzudzuana come from?

Was the raw data released?
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#62
(03-16-2024, 10:30 PM)ilabv Wrote: There have been many papers without G25 coordinates (recently and perhaps older ones too).

If you know of any studies which dont have G25 coordinates please send me their raw data or at least the study they come from. Teepean has been helping me so I can help the community gong forward

It'd be very helpful if we can get the coordinates of these 3 studies:

*16th century sub-Saharan African origin for all three individuals in Mexico City.

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB37490


*Aridoamericans and Mesoamericans of pre-Hispanic civilizations thrived between 2,500 BCE.

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB51440


*40 ancient northern Mexicans dating to 7400-200 years before present (BP).

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB66319
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23andMe: 55.5% European, 33.7% Indigenous American, 4.2% WANA, 3.4% SSA and 3.2% Unassigned
AncestryDNA: 57.27% Europe, 35.81% Indigenous Americas-Mexico, 3.46% MENA and 3.45% SSA
FamilyTreeDNA: 56.9% Europe, 33% Americas, 8.2% MENA, <2% Horn of Africa and <1% Eastern India
Living DNA: 63.3% West Iberia, 34.3% Native Americas and 2.3% Yorubaland
MyHeritage DNA: 60.8% Mesoamerican & Andean, 21% European, 14.9% MENA and 3.3% Nigerian

[1] "penalty= 0.001"
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"
[1] "distance%=2.1116"

        Jalisciense

Iberian EMA,50.2
Native American,34.6
Guanche,7.4
Levantine EBA,4.6
African,3.2
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#63
(03-31-2024, 05:45 AM)Jalisciense Wrote:
(03-16-2024, 10:30 PM)ilabv Wrote: There have been many papers without G25 coordinates (recently and perhaps older ones too).

If you know of any studies which dont have G25 coordinates please send me their raw data or at least the study they come from. Teepean has been helping me so I can help the community gong forward

It'd be very helpful if we can get the coordinates of these 3 studies 

*16th century sub-Saharan African origin for all three individuals in Mexico City.

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB37490


*Aridoamericans and Mesoamericans of pre-Hispanic civilizations thrived between 2,500 BCE.

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB51440


*40 ancient northern Mexicans dating to 7400-200 years before present (BP).

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB66319


Sure thing. Can you send them to Ajeje first to make sure they weren't already converted? If they werent then ill do them
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#64
(03-31-2024, 05:57 AM)ilabv Wrote:
(03-31-2024, 05:45 AM)Jalisciense Wrote:
(03-16-2024, 10:30 PM)ilabv Wrote: There have been many papers without G25 coordinates (recently and perhaps older ones too).

If you know of any studies which dont have G25 coordinates please send me their raw data or at least the study they come from. Teepean has been helping me so I can help the community gong forward

It'd be very helpful if we can get the coordinates of these 3 studies 

*16th century sub-Saharan African origin for all three individuals in Mexico City.

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB37490


*Aridoamericans and Mesoamericans of pre-Hispanic civilizations thrived between 2,500 BCE.

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB51440


*40 ancient northern Mexicans dating to 7400-200 years before present (BP).

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB66319


Sure thing. Can you send them to Ajeje first to make sure they weren't already converted? If they werent then ill do them

Ok, I already sent them to him in PM, but I just hope he is not online one day each month or something xdd
23andMe: 55.5% European, 33.7% Indigenous American, 4.2% WANA, 3.4% SSA and 3.2% Unassigned
AncestryDNA: 57.27% Europe, 35.81% Indigenous Americas-Mexico, 3.46% MENA and 3.45% SSA
FamilyTreeDNA: 56.9% Europe, 33% Americas, 8.2% MENA, <2% Horn of Africa and <1% Eastern India
Living DNA: 63.3% West Iberia, 34.3% Native Americas and 2.3% Yorubaland
MyHeritage DNA: 60.8% Mesoamerican & Andean, 21% European, 14.9% MENA and 3.3% Nigerian

[1] "penalty= 0.001"
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"
[1] "distance%=2.1116"

        Jalisciense

Iberian EMA,50.2
Native American,34.6
Guanche,7.4
Levantine EBA,4.6
African,3.2
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#65
(03-31-2024, 06:03 AM)Jalisciense Wrote:
(03-31-2024, 05:57 AM)ilabv Wrote:
(03-31-2024, 05:45 AM)Jalisciense Wrote: It'd be very helpful if we can get the coordinates of these 3 studies 

*16th century sub-Saharan African origin for all three individuals in Mexico City.

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB37490


*Aridoamericans and Mesoamericans of pre-Hispanic civilizations thrived between 2,500 BCE.

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB51440


*40 ancient northern Mexicans dating to 7400-200 years before present (BP).

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB66319


Sure thing. Can you send them to Ajeje first to make sure they weren't already converted? If they werent then ill do them

Ok, I already sent them to him in PM, but I hope he is not online one day each month or something xdd

I'll send them to him using another route as well
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#66
(03-31-2024, 06:04 AM)ilabv Wrote:
(03-31-2024, 06:03 AM)Jalisciense Wrote:
(03-31-2024, 05:57 AM)ilabv Wrote: Sure thing. Can you send them to Ajeje first to make sure they weren't already converted? If they werent then ill do them

Ok, I already sent them to him in PM, but I hope he is not online one day each month or something xdd

I'll send them to him using another route as well

Thanks! I'd be waiting for his answer then Smile
23andMe: 55.5% European, 33.7% Indigenous American, 4.2% WANA, 3.4% SSA and 3.2% Unassigned
AncestryDNA: 57.27% Europe, 35.81% Indigenous Americas-Mexico, 3.46% MENA and 3.45% SSA
FamilyTreeDNA: 56.9% Europe, 33% Americas, 8.2% MENA, <2% Horn of Africa and <1% Eastern India
Living DNA: 63.3% West Iberia, 34.3% Native Americas and 2.3% Yorubaland
MyHeritage DNA: 60.8% Mesoamerican & Andean, 21% European, 14.9% MENA and 3.3% Nigerian

[1] "penalty= 0.001"
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"
[1] "distance%=2.1116"

        Jalisciense

Iberian EMA,50.2
Native American,34.6
Guanche,7.4
Levantine EBA,4.6
African,3.2
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#67
(03-31-2024, 01:52 AM)ilabv Wrote: Once again, if you notice any samples missing from G25 please let me know. There are Swiss, Calabria N, and 2019 study on Euro plague victims on the way.

Two studies from IA Xinjiang and Yellow River Farmers don't seem to have download links that work so idk what to do about those:

https://ngdc.cncb.ac.cn/gsa-human/browse/HRA006152

https://ngdc.cncb.ac.cn/bioproject/browse/PRJCA023312

First one:

ftp://download.big.ac.cn/gsa-human/HRA006152/

Second one:

ftp://download.big.ac.cn/gsa-human/HRA006610/
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#68
(03-31-2024, 07:02 AM)teepean Wrote:
(03-31-2024, 01:52 AM)ilabv Wrote: Once again, if you notice any samples missing from G25 please let me know. There are Swiss, Calabria N, and 2019 study on Euro plague victims on the way.

Two studies from IA Xinjiang and Yellow River Farmers don't seem to have download links that work so idk what to do about those:

https://ngdc.cncb.ac.cn/gsa-human/browse/HRA006152

https://ngdc.cncb.ac.cn/bioproject/browse/PRJCA023312

First one:

ftp://download.big.ac.cn/gsa-human/HRA006152/

Second one:

ftp://download.big.ac.cn/gsa-human/HRA006610/

Tried to download direct from site to see if speeds would be good, using those links it still didn't work. I'll try to use the method applied to the ENA for these
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#69
thank you for convert many samples ancient to G25 and this great work
Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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#70
Biomolecular insights into North African-related ancestry, mobility and diet in eleventh-century Al-Andalus

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95996-3
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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#71
(03-31-2024, 02:54 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: Biomolecular insights into North African-related ancestry, mobility and diet in eleventh-century Al-Andalus

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95996-3

Ok sounds good
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#72
(03-31-2024, 06:04 AM)ilabv Wrote:
(03-31-2024, 06:03 AM)Jalisciense Wrote:
(03-31-2024, 05:57 AM)ilabv Wrote: Sure thing. Can you send them to Ajeje first to make sure they weren't already converted? If they werent then ill do them

Ok, I already sent them to him in PM, but I hope he is not online one day each month or something xdd

I'll send them to him using another route as well

He replied me this:

"None of the samples from these three studies are present on G25.
G25 Ancients: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0q39lrsyn...o&e=3&dl=0 "
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23andMe: 55.5% European, 33.7% Indigenous American, 4.2% WANA, 3.4% SSA and 3.2% Unassigned
AncestryDNA: 57.27% Europe, 35.81% Indigenous Americas-Mexico, 3.46% MENA and 3.45% SSA
FamilyTreeDNA: 56.9% Europe, 33% Americas, 8.2% MENA, <2% Horn of Africa and <1% Eastern India
Living DNA: 63.3% West Iberia, 34.3% Native Americas and 2.3% Yorubaland
MyHeritage DNA: 60.8% Mesoamerican & Andean, 21% European, 14.9% MENA and 3.3% Nigerian

[1] "penalty= 0.001"
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"
[1] "distance%=2.1116"

        Jalisciense

Iberian EMA,50.2
Native American,34.6
Guanche,7.4
Levantine EBA,4.6
African,3.2
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#73
Bad link....

"None of the samples from these three studies are present on G25.
G25 Ancients: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0q39lrsyn...o&e=3&dl=0"
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#74
(03-31-2024, 03:49 PM)AimSmall Wrote: Bad link....

"None of the samples from these three studies are present on G25.
G25 Ancients: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0q39lrsyn...o&e=3&dl=0"

I edited my post, now it is working.
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23andMe: 55.5% European, 33.7% Indigenous American, 4.2% WANA, 3.4% SSA and 3.2% Unassigned
AncestryDNA: 57.27% Europe, 35.81% Indigenous Americas-Mexico, 3.46% MENA and 3.45% SSA
FamilyTreeDNA: 56.9% Europe, 33% Americas, 8.2% MENA, <2% Horn of Africa and <1% Eastern India
Living DNA: 63.3% West Iberia, 34.3% Native Americas and 2.3% Yorubaland
MyHeritage DNA: 60.8% Mesoamerican & Andean, 21% European, 14.9% MENA and 3.3% Nigerian

[1] "penalty= 0.001"
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"
[1] "distance%=2.1116"

        Jalisciense

Iberian EMA,50.2
Native American,34.6
Guanche,7.4
Levantine EBA,4.6
African,3.2
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#75
Big thank you to everyone involved in churning these samples out. :-)
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Known ancestry: 58% English, 36% Irish, 6% Welsh
LivingDNA: 60% English, 32% Irish, 8% Welsh
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MyHeritageDNA genetic groups (LivingDNA upload)
Y-DNA (P): Wiltshire at 10 generations. Negative at YSEQ for all discovered SNPs downstream of R-S15663
mtDNA (M): Co. Cork
mtDNA (P): Co. Limerick
Avatar: My great grandmother at St Mary's Church, St Fagans, circa 1930
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