Native Americans from the USA and Canada
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Native Americans from the USA and Canada
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In this thread I will post G25 and GEDmatch results of Native Americans from the USA & CAN.
Let's start with a map showing major concentrations of US Native American populations today: https://i.imgur.com/V3UBMI5.png ![[Image: V3UBMI5.png]](https://i.imgur.com/V3UBMI5.png)
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Now some Global25 coordinates (scaled):
USA tribes: Choctaw: Code: Choctaw:Choctaw1,0.055773,-0.292472,0.109365,0.084949,-0.096941,-0.017012,-0.233601,-0.278988,-0.011044,-0.020957,0.005521,-0.001649,0.009217,0.017478,-0.009365,0.009414,0.003129,0.004054,0.004148,0.001501,-0.005989,0.004575,-0.005053,0.000964,-0.004191Sioux: Code: Sioux:Sioux1,0.053497,-0.312783,0.111251,0.085918,-0.101865,-0.010319,-0.22608,-0.271373,-0.008181,-0.021686,0.002923,-0.001499,0,0.006193,-0.011129,0.002519,0.008214,-0.001774,0.001885,0.003627,-0.005241,-0.001978,-0.002588,0.000241,0.006706Navajo: Code: Navajo:Navajo1,0.055773,-0.321923,0.112382,0.085595,-0.104635,-0.017849,-0.22232,-0.273912,-0.007363,-0.024966,-0.00065,0.001649,0.001784,0.013349,-0.0076,-0.009414,-0.012126,0.005321,0.006159,0.001876,-0.000499,-0.006554,-0.002711,0.003012,0.007784Chippewa: Code: Chippewa:Chippewa1,0.064879,-0.254898,0.106725,0.072998,-0.091094,-0.022032,-0.187538,-0.226837,-0.012271,-0.018406,-0.003573,-0.002997,0.000595,0.013625,-0.012758,0.002917,0.008475,0.00152,0.000503,0.003377,-0.000749,-0.000618,-0.006532,0.000361,0.002754===== Canada tribes: Ojibwe: Code: Ojibwe:Ojibwe1,0.064879,-0.250836,0.107479,0.074613,-0.084939,-0.011156,-0.190124,-0.225914,-0.008795,-0.019135,-0.001949,-0.01169,-0.002825,0.007707,-0.004072,0.006099,0.003912,0.000507,0.008045,5e-04,-0.004118,-0.001855,-0.00493,0.001325,0.003233Cree: Code: Cree:Cree3,0.072847,-0.234587,0.09428,0.065892,-0.084323,0.000558,-0.169678,-0.202607,-0.006545,-0.015855,-0.001299,-0.005545,-0.001635,-0.002202,-0.005972,0.007027,-0.001825,-0.001774,0.009804,0.002251,0.004243,-0.010634,-0.001849,-0.003615,0.00455Algonquin: Code: Algonquin:Algonquin1,0.063741,-0.227479,0.104462,0.070091,-0.08063,-0.006693,-0.161217,-0.206068,-0.00225,-0.016219,0.003085,-0.003297,0.002081,0.00289,-0.008143,0.006895,0.002347,0.00114,0.00352,0.011756,0.010107,0.002597,0.01368,0.006989,0.002515============================ And unscaled coordinates for the same group: USA tribes: Code: Chippewa:Chippewa1,0.0057,-0.0251,0.0283,0.0226,-0.0296,-0.0079,-0.0798,-0.0983,-0.006,-0.0101,-0.0022,-0.002,0.0004,0.0099,-0.0094,0.0022,0.0065,0.0012,0.0004,0.0027,-0.0006,-0.0005,-0.0053,0.0003,0.0023Canada tribes: Code: Algonquin:Algonquin1,0.0056,-0.0224,0.0277,0.0217,-0.0262,-0.0024,-0.0686,-0.0893,-0.0011,-0.0089,0.0019,-0.0022,0.0014,0.0021,-0.006,0.0052,0.0018,0.0009,0.0028,0.0094,0.0081,0.0021,0.0111,0.0058,0.0021
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Eurogenes K36 results for 25 Sioux from South Dakota, in Vahaduo format:
Code: US_Sioux1,71.5,0,0,0,0,0,0,4.29,0,0,0,0,1.56,1.61,0,0,0,0,0.88,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,18.36,0,1.78,0,0,0,0,0MDLP World-22 results for 25 Sioux from South Dakota, in Vahaduo format: Code: US_Sioux1,0,0,0.09,0,35.74,0.95,7.73,0,0,0,1.3,0.32,3.62,0,0,45.86,0,3.37,0,0,0.95,0Eurogenes K36 results for 2 Sioux from North Dakota, in Vahaduo format: Code: US_Sioux26,70.92,0,0,0,0,0,0,4.24,0,0,0.65,0,0,2.27,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,0,18.92,0,0,0,0,0,0,0MDLP World-22 results for 2 Sioux from North Dakota, in Vahaduo format: Code: US_Sioux26,0,1.08,0,0,37.35,0,8.05,0,2.08,0,0,1.14,2.31,0,0.18,44.27,0,3.05,0,0,0.5,0
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Now a common case in Oklahoma, someone who is a mixture of many tribes (this happens frequently in Oklahoma).
This person is a mix of Ioway, Otoe-Missouria, Potawatomi, Seminole, Muscogee, Kickapoo and Absentee Shawnee: Kit number: A902003 Eurogenes K36: Population Amerindian 62.54 Pct Arabian - Armenian 0.68 Pct Basque 1.13 Pct Central_African - Central_Euro 1 Pct East_African - East_Asian - East_Balkan - East_Central_Asian 1.41 Pct East_Central_Euro 0.25 Pct East_Med - Eastern_Euro 4.69 Pct Fennoscandian 1.42 Pct French 2.07 Pct Iberian 1.74 Pct Indo-Chinese 1.4 Pct Italian - Malayan 0.37 Pct Near_Eastern - North_African 0.94 Pct North_Atlantic 0.62 Pct North_Caucasian 1.85 Pct North_Sea 1.09 Pct Northeast_African - Oceanian - Omotic - Pygmy - Siberian 10.85 Pct South_Asian - South_Central_Asian 2.06 Pct South_Chinese - Volga-Ural 2.26 Pct West_African - West_Caucasian 0.25 Pct West_Med 1.35 Pct MDLP World-22: Population Pygmy - West-Asian 2.22 Pct North-European-Mesolithic 2.66 Pct Indo-Tibetan - Mesoamerican 34.14 Pct Arctic-Amerind 0.96 Pct South-America_Amerind 8.39 Pct Indian 0.39 Pct North-Siberean - Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 5.91 Pct Samoedic 0.86 Pct Indo-Iranian 0.91 Pct East-Siberean 1.59 Pct North-East-European 3.98 Pct South-African - North-Amerind 33.83 Pct Sub-Saharian - East-South-Asian 1.41 Pct Near_East 2.07 Pct Melanesian - Paleo-Siberian 0.68 Pct Austronesian - ======================= Another similar case from Oklahoma: This person is a mix of Pawnee, Otoe and Sac and Fox: Kit number: A866243 Eurogenes K36: Population Amerindian 69.38 Pct Arabian - Armenian - Basque - Central_African - Central_Euro - East_African - East_Asian 5.82 Pct East_Balkan - East_Central_Asian - East_Central_Euro 1.8 Pct East_Med - Eastern_Euro - Fennoscandian 2.88 Pct French - Iberian - Indo-Chinese - Italian - Malayan - Near_Eastern - North_African - North_Atlantic 1.27 Pct North_Caucasian 1.03 Pct North_Sea 0.59 Pct Northeast_African - Oceanian - Omotic - Pygmy - Siberian 14.45 Pct South_Asian - South_Central_Asian - South_Chinese - Volga-Ural 2.72 Pct West_African - West_Caucasian - West_Med - MDLP World-22: Population Pygmy - West-Asian - North-European-Mesolithic 0.47 Pct Indo-Tibetan - Mesoamerican 38.9 Pct Arctic-Amerind - South-America_Amerind 9.84 Pct Indian - North-Siberean 1.19 Pct Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 1.88 Pct Samoedic 1.75 Pct Indo-Iranian 1.03 Pct East-Siberean 4.46 Pct North-East-European 1.39 Pct South-African - North-Amerind 37.46 Pct Sub-Saharian - East-South-Asian 1.64 Pct Near_East - Melanesian - Paleo-Siberian - Austronesian - =============== Yet another similar case of mixture, but this time from North Dakota: This person is a mix of Arikara, Hidatsa, Chippewa and Lakota Sioux: Kit number: M562908 Eurogenes K36: Population Amerindian 69.94 Pct Arabian - Armenian - Basque - Central_African - Central_Euro - East_African - East_Asian 2.77 Pct East_Balkan - East_Central_Asian - East_Central_Euro 3.49 Pct East_Med - Eastern_Euro 3.23 Pct Fennoscandian - French - Iberian - Indo-Chinese 0.67 Pct Italian - Malayan 0.08 Pct Near_Eastern - North_African - North_Atlantic - North_Caucasian - North_Sea - Northeast_African - Oceanian - Omotic - Pygmy - Siberian 17.17 Pct South_Asian - South_Central_Asian 0.09 Pct South_Chinese - Volga-Ural 2.51 Pct West_African - West_Caucasian - West_Med - MDLP World-22: Population Pygmy 0.21 Pct West-Asian 0.21 Pct North-European-Mesolithic 0.78 Pct Indo-Tibetan - Mesoamerican 38.29 Pct Arctic-Amerind - South-America_Amerind 8.27 Pct Indian - North-Siberean 0.33 Pct Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 0.4 Pct Samoedic 1.41 Pct Indo-Iranian 0.69 Pct East-Siberean 2.38 Pct North-East-European 1.28 Pct South-African - North-Amerind 42.57 Pct Sub-Saharian - East-South-Asian 3.12 Pct Near_East - Melanesian - Paleo-Siberian 0.06 Pct Austronesian - ==================== This person from Oklahoma is 75% Native American and 25% Asian (Filipino & Chinese): Her Native American side is a mix of Navajo, Jemez, Hopi, Cheyenne and Kiowa-Apache: Kit number: M321300 Eurogenes K36: Population Amerindian 60.49 Pct Arabian - Armenian - Basque 0.1 Pct Central_African - Central_Euro - East_African - East_Asian 6.64 Pct East_Balkan - East_Central_Asian 0.94 Pct East_Central_Euro 2.8 Pct East_Med - Eastern_Euro 0.87 Pct Fennoscandian 1.83 Pct French - Iberian - Indo-Chinese 2.47 Pct Italian - Malayan 4.73 Pct Near_Eastern - North_African - North_Atlantic - North_Caucasian - North_Sea - Northeast_African - Oceanian - Omotic - Pygmy 0.48 Pct Siberian 14.88 Pct South_Asian 2.14 Pct South_Central_Asian - South_Chinese - Volga-Ural 0.85 Pct West_African 0.73 Pct West_Caucasian - West_Med - MDLP World-22: Population Pygmy - West-Asian - North-European-Mesolithic 0.07 Pct Indo-Tibetan 0.06 Pct Mesoamerican 30.27 Pct Arctic-Amerind - South-America_Amerind 6.36 Pct Indian 0.27 Pct North-Siberean 0.89 Pct Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 0.81 Pct Samoedic 1.1 Pct Indo-Iranian 0.65 Pct East-Siberean 4.61 Pct North-East-European 0.61 Pct South-African 0.29 Pct North-Amerind 42.59 Pct Sub-Saharian 1.75 Pct East-South-Asian 8.83 Pct Near_East - Melanesian 0.2 Pct Paleo-Siberian 0.66 Pct Austronesian - 
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01-28-2024, 12:03 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-28-2024, 12:04 AM by Jalisciense.)
Awesome bro, cool thread, but we have already one for USA and Canada:
https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?...60#pid8960 So you can post the results there.
23andMe: 55.5% European, 33.7% Indigenous American, 4.2% WANA, 3.4% SSA and 3.2% Unassigned
AncestryDNA: 57.27% Europe, 35.81% Indigenous Americas-Mexico, 3.46% MENA and 3.45% SSA FamilyTreeDNA: 56.9% Europe, 33% Americas, 8.2% MENA, <2% Horn of Africa and <1% Eastern India Living DNA: 63.3% West Iberia, 34.3% Native Americas and 2.3% Yorubaland MyHeritage DNA: 60.8% Mesoamerican & Andean, 21% European, 14.9% MENA and 3.3% Nigerian [1] "penalty= 0.001" [1] "Ncycles= 1000" [1] "distance%=2.1116" Jalisciense Iberian EMA,50.2 Native American,34.6 Guanche,7.4 Levantine EBA,4.6 African,3.2
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More results:
Chippewa from Minnesota: Eurogenes K36: Population Amerindian 59.37 Pct Arabian - Armenian - Basque - Central_African - Central_Euro 0.58 Pct East_African - East_Asian 1.07 Pct East_Balkan - East_Central_Asian 1.11 Pct East_Central_Euro 0.48 Pct East_Med - Eastern_Euro 3.99 Pct Fennoscandian 3.79 Pct French 2.82 Pct Iberian 0.21 Pct Indo-Chinese - Italian - Malayan - Near_Eastern - North_African - North_Atlantic 0.38 Pct North_Caucasian 3.3 Pct North_Sea - Northeast_African - Oceanian 0.22 Pct Omotic - Pygmy - Siberian 19.29 Pct South_Asian - South_Central_Asian 0.62 Pct South_Chinese - Volga-Ural 2.77 Pct West_African - West_Caucasian - West_Med - MDLP World-22: Population Pygmy 0.14 Pct West-Asian 1.34 Pct North-European-Mesolithic 1.75 Pct Indo-Tibetan - Mesoamerican 30.35 Pct Arctic-Amerind 1.69 Pct South-America_Amerind 6.22 Pct Indian - North-Siberean 0.22 Pct Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 2.33 Pct Samoedic 2.97 Pct Indo-Iranian - East-Siberean 3.92 Pct North-East-European 5.39 Pct South-African - North-Amerind 40.43 Pct Sub-Saharian - East-South-Asian 1.78 Pct Near_East - Melanesian - Paleo-Siberian 1.47 Pct Austronesian - Native American from Colorado: Eurogenes K36: Population Amerindian 66.18 Pct Arabian - Armenian - Basque - Central_African - Central_Euro - East_African - East_Asian - East_Balkan - East_Central_Asian - East_Central_Euro 0.2 Pct East_Med - Eastern_Euro 0.99 Pct Fennoscandian 1.04 Pct French 1.81 Pct Iberian 0.57 Pct Indo-Chinese - Italian - Malayan 1.56 Pct Near_Eastern - North_African - North_Atlantic 2.54 Pct North_Caucasian 0.17 Pct North_Sea 2.24 Pct Northeast_African - Oceanian 0.52 Pct Omotic - Pygmy - Siberian 19.65 Pct South_Asian 0.82 Pct South_Central_Asian 0.94 Pct South_Chinese - Volga-Ural 0.77 Pct West_African - West_Caucasian - West_Med - MDLP World-22: Population Pygmy - West-Asian 0.46 Pct North-European-Mesolithic 1.03 Pct Indo-Tibetan - Mesoamerican 31.02 Pct Arctic-Amerind 1.93 Pct South-America_Amerind 7.32 Pct Indian 0.41 Pct North-Siberean 0.5 Pct Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 1.91 Pct Samoedic 0.87 Pct Indo-Iranian 0.7 Pct East-Siberean 2.35 Pct North-East-European 1.61 Pct South-African - North-Amerind 48.39 Pct Sub-Saharian - East-South-Asian 0.1 Pct Near_East - Melanesian - Paleo-Siberian 1.27 Pct Austronesian 0.13 Pct Native American from Montana: Eurogenes K36: Population Amerindian 55.95 Pct Arabian - Armenian - Basque - Central_African 0.52 Pct Central_Euro - East_African - East_Asian 0.81 Pct East_Balkan - East_Central_Asian 1.51 Pct East_Central_Euro 0.55 Pct East_Med - Eastern_Euro 3.89 Pct Fennoscandian 3.38 Pct French - Iberian - Indo-Chinese 0.3 Pct Italian - Malayan 1.37 Pct Near_Eastern - North_African - North_Atlantic 4.22 Pct North_Caucasian - North_Sea 2.9 Pct Northeast_African - Oceanian - Omotic - Pygmy - Siberian 19.34 Pct South_Asian - South_Central_Asian 4.02 Pct South_Chinese 0.07 Pct Volga-Ural 1.18 Pct West_African - West_Caucasian - West_Med - MDLP World-22: Population Pygmy - West-Asian 1.46 Pct North-European-Mesolithic 2.32 Pct Indo-Tibetan - Mesoamerican 25.25 Pct Arctic-Amerind 2.15 Pct South-America_Amerind 4.34 Pct Indian - North-Siberean - Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 3.13 Pct Samoedic 2.72 Pct Indo-Iranian 1.99 Pct East-Siberean 2.74 Pct North-East-European 4.67 Pct South-African 0.21 Pct North-Amerind 43.39 Pct Sub-Saharian 0.11 Pct East-South-Asian 2.98 Pct Near_East - Melanesian - Paleo-Siberian 2.32 Pct Austronesian 0.17 Pct (01-28-2024, 12:03 AM)Jalisciense Wrote: Awesome bro, cool thread, but we have already one for USA and Canada: I prefer to have this thread in the Autosomal subforum, okay? So I will keep posting in my thread. But if you want you can re-post in your thread.
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Muscogee Creek from Oklahoma:
Eurogenes K36: Population Amerindian 62.6 Pct Arabian - Armenian - Basque 0.21 Pct Central_African - Central_Euro - East_African - East_Asian 0.33 Pct East_Balkan 0.34 Pct East_Central_Asian 0.31 Pct East_Central_Euro 1.41 Pct East_Med - Eastern_Euro 3.9 Pct Fennoscandian 3.09 Pct French 0.53 Pct Iberian 0.46 Pct Indo-Chinese - Italian - Malayan - Near_Eastern - North_African - North_Atlantic 3.58 Pct North_Caucasian - North_Sea 4.55 Pct Northeast_African - Oceanian - Omotic - Pygmy - Siberian 11.08 Pct South_Asian 0.36 Pct South_Central_Asian 4.53 Pct South_Chinese - Volga-Ural 2.18 Pct West_African 0.54 Pct West_Caucasian - West_Med - MDLP World-22: Population Pygmy 0.31 Pct West-Asian 1.46 Pct North-European-Mesolithic 1.63 Pct Indo-Tibetan - Mesoamerican 37.2 Pct Arctic-Amerind 0.63 Pct South-America_Amerind 9.61 Pct Indian 1.14 Pct North-Siberean 1.17 Pct Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 4.9 Pct Samoedic 1.72 Pct Indo-Iranian 1.07 Pct East-Siberean - North-East-European 7.73 Pct South-African - North-Amerind 30.02 Pct Sub-Saharian 0.46 Pct East-South-Asian 0.24 Pct Near_East - Melanesian 0.31 Pct Paleo-Siberian 0.29 Pct Austronesian 0.1 Pct
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MDLP World-22 results for 5 Alaska Inuits, in Vahaduo format:
Code: US_AlaskaInuit5,0,0,0,0,5.1,40.67,0.46,0,5.02,0,0,0,5.27,0,0,22.92,0,2.53,0,0,18.04,0MDLP World-22 results for 4 Canadian Inuits, in Vahaduo format: Code: CA_NunavutInuit4,0,0,0,0,3.65,54.27,0,0,1.19,0,0,0,6.94,0,0,21,0,1.33,0,0,11.61,0MDLP World-22 results for 11 Canadian Dene, in Vahaduo format: Code: CA_NaDene1,0,0,0,0,14.39,4.09,2.55,0,1.43,0,0,0,4.89,0,0,69.49,0,1.78,0,0,1.39,0MDLP World-22 results for 2 Kiowa-Arapahos, in Vahaduo format: Code: US_KiowaArapaho1,0.12,0.14,0.22,0,36.94,2.14,7.73,0,0.41,1.31,0,0.4,3.19,0.92,0,43.73,0,1.44,0.18,0,1.11,0MDLP World-22 results for 5 Hopi-Pueblos, in Vahaduo format: Code: US_HopiPueblo1,0,0,0,0,32.27,0.4,6.16,0.31,0.18,0,0.64,0.34,2.65,0,0,55.45,0,1.17,0,0,0.38,0MDLP World-22 results for 11 Navajos, in Vahaduo format: Code: US_Navajo10,0,0,1.07,0,31.55,1.03,5.57,0.45,0.05,2.35,0.36,0,2.91,2.42,0.1,46.8,0,2.17,0.55,0,2.44,0.17MDLP World-22 results for 13 Choctaws, in Vahaduo format: Code: US_ChoctawOklahoma1,0.57,0.41,1.35,0,42.08,1,10.95,0,0.64,0.25,1.41,0.36,1.31,1.59,0.23,34.68,0.85,2.04,0,0,0.24,0Code: US_ChoctawMississippi1,0.09,0,1.92,0,42.59,0,11.71,0,0.1,1.77,0.58,0,1.9,1.42,0.09,35.54,0,2.29,0,0,0,0
01-28-2024, 11:27 AM
great job thanks you
Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049 37.2 Iberomaurusian 36.8 Early_European_Farmer 12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer 8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist 4.8 SSA 0.4 Iran_Neolithic FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2 Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta + 3% Iberian Peninsula 23andME : 100% North Africa WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA) Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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PCA of several tribes based on MDLP World-22 results:
Full size PCA: https://i.imgur.com/MM7Cgmw.png ![[Image: MM7Cgmw.png]](https://i.imgur.com/MM7Cgmw.png) Zoomed PCA: Blue - Sioux, North Dakota mixed Gold - Kiowa-Arapaho Light Green - Hopi-Pueblo Dark Orange - Navajo Dark Green - Choctaw, Creek, Oklahoma mixed Indigo - Ojibwe, Algonquin, Cree Deep Pink - Chippewa Black - Montana, Colorado, Apache https://i.imgur.com/WpBrDbB.png ![[Image: WpBrDbB.png]](https://i.imgur.com/WpBrDbB.png)
01-28-2024, 04:04 PM
These 2 G25 sim from K36 do not look right. They look like they are from the great lakes area:
![[Image: 7pX7Isj.png]](https://i.imgur.com/7pX7Isj.png) ![[Image: iGCkXV9.png]](https://i.imgur.com/iGCkXV9.png)
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(01-28-2024, 04:04 PM)ph2ter Wrote: These 2 G25 sim from K36 do not look right. They look like they are from the great lakes area Yes I think that sims from K36 results will not be very accurate for Native Americans because K36 has not enough components relevant for Native Americans. Maybe G25 sims from MDLP World-22 results would be more accurate? Is it possible to simulate G25 using this calculator? Anyway, those G25 coordinates which I posted at the beginning of this thread are real G25 coordinates, not simulated. (01-28-2024, 04:09 PM)Tomenable Wrote:(01-28-2024, 04:04 PM)ph2ter Wrote: These 2 G25 sim from K36 do not look right. They look like they are from the great lakes area Not too much different, but better: ![[Image: 0rw28Gq.png]](https://i.imgur.com/0rw28Gq.png)
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Which tool do you use to simulate G25 from MDLP World-22 results? Is it available online, can you post a link?
BTW we should ask Davidski what exactly are his "Amerindian_North" samples, which tribe(s) do they represent. |
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