Posts: 1,308
Threads: 64
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: British
Y-DNA (P): R-FGC36981
Y-DNA (M): R-FT418639
mtDNA (M): U5a2c3a
mtDNA (P): K1a1
Starting this thread over here at the new platform. I think it's worth doing.
Anyone else here test with BritainsDNA?
I did the Chromo2 and the Redhead test back in 2014. Chromo2 found that I am R1b-S524 (DF41), which was about as far as things went back then, and my Redhead test showed that I am a carrier of one copy of the red hair variant Arg160Trp (aka R160W, rs1805008 T).
Fortunately, I had the forethought to have BDNA send me a printed hard copy of my results, since BDNA is now out of business and no longer maintains a web site.
Here are two graphics BDNA sent me with my results.
Rufus191 and JonikW like this post
Let us now praise famous men, and our fathers that begat us.
- Wisdom of Sirach 44:1
Posts: 164
Threads: 1
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Welsh
Y-DNA (P): R-DF49
Y-DNA (M): J1c2e
10-01-2023, 02:01 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-01-2023, 02:05 PM by jdean.)
Since I haven't posted this for a LONG time thought it a good idea (hopefully it will work : )
To be clear this is the complete Y haplogroup data from BritiansDNA website
Posts: 1,308
Threads: 64
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: British
Y-DNA (P): R-FGC36981
Y-DNA (M): R-FT418639
mtDNA (M): U5a2c3a
mtDNA (P): K1a1
(10-01-2023, 02:01 PM)jdean Wrote: Since I haven't posted this for a LONG time thought it a good idea (hopefully it will work : )
To be clear this is the complete Y haplogroup data from BritiansDNA website
Wow! There's some old, obsolete stuff in that table.
JonikW and Capsian20 like this post
Let us now praise famous men, and our fathers that begat us.
- Wisdom of Sirach 44:1
Posts: 1,308
Threads: 64
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: British
Y-DNA (P): R-FGC36981
Y-DNA (M): R-FT418639
mtDNA (M): U5a2c3a
mtDNA (P): K1a1
Here's the mtDNA certificate I got from good old BDNA. Btw, I say "good old BDNA" because I actually miss BritainsDNA, and because I think Dr. Jim Wilson, with whom I exchanged a number of emails over the years, is a great guy. It was a shame to lose that company.
Let us now praise famous men, and our fathers that begat us.
- Wisdom of Sirach 44:1
Posts: 1,308
Threads: 64
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: British
Y-DNA (P): R-FGC36981
Y-DNA (M): R-FT418639
mtDNA (M): U5a2c3a
mtDNA (P): K1a1
Here's another Y-DNA certificate I got from BDNA.
jdean, JMcB, JonikW And 1 others like this post
Let us now praise famous men, and our fathers that begat us.
- Wisdom of Sirach 44:1
Posts: 164
Threads: 1
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Welsh
Y-DNA (P): R-DF49
Y-DNA (M): J1c2e
(10-02-2023, 01:32 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: Here's another Y-DNA certificate I got from BDNA.
I didn't realize they drilled that far down
It was a real shame they didn't do more maps, though I doubt there would have been enough R-DF49 x M222 to make much sense I'd still liked to have seen it and IMO they really missed a trick not providing that data for the larger clades of L21.
rmstevens2 and JonikW like this post
Posts: 1,308
Threads: 64
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: British
Y-DNA (P): R-FGC36981
Y-DNA (M): R-FT418639
mtDNA (M): U5a2c3a
mtDNA (P): K1a1
(10-04-2023, 11:16 AM)jdean Wrote: (10-02-2023, 01:32 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: Here's another Y-DNA certificate I got from BDNA.
I didn't realize they drilled that far down
It was a real shame they didn't do more maps, though I doubt there would have been enough R-DF49 x M222 to make much sense I'd still liked to have seen it and IMO they really missed a trick not providing that data for the larger clades of L21.
That was from the Chromo2, which, for the time, was the most advanced thing going. I'm not sure they didn't have frequency maps, but they didn't send me any hard copies.
jdean and JonikW like this post
Let us now praise famous men, and our fathers that begat us.
- Wisdom of Sirach 44:1
Posts: 164
Threads: 1
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Welsh
Y-DNA (P): R-DF49
Y-DNA (M): J1c2e
(10-08-2023, 02:31 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: (10-04-2023, 11:16 AM)jdean Wrote: (10-02-2023, 01:32 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: Here's another Y-DNA certificate I got from BDNA.
I didn't realize they drilled that far down
It was a real shame they didn't do more maps, though I doubt there would have been enough R-DF49 x M222 to make much sense I'd still liked to have seen it and IMO they really missed a trick not providing that data for the larger clades of L21.
That was from the Chromo2, which, for the time, was the most advanced thing going. I'm not sure they didn't have frequency maps, but they didn't send me any hard copies.
The distribution data I supplied earlier was all of it, I found where they were keeping the info on their website and downloaded the lot. Also got international distribution data but that was repeated scientific papers.
rmstevens2 and JonikW like this post
Posts: 1,308
Threads: 64
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: British
Y-DNA (P): R-FGC36981
Y-DNA (M): R-FT418639
mtDNA (M): U5a2c3a
mtDNA (P): K1a1
(10-08-2023, 04:05 PM)jdean Wrote: (10-08-2023, 02:31 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: (10-04-2023, 11:16 AM)jdean Wrote: (10-02-2023, 01:32 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: Here's another Y-DNA certificate I got from BDNA.
I didn't realize they drilled that far down
It was a real shame they didn't do more maps, though I doubt there would have been enough R-DF49 x M222 to make much sense I'd still liked to have seen it and IMO they really missed a trick not providing that data for the larger clades of L21.
That was from the Chromo2, which, for the time, was the most advanced thing going. I'm not sure they didn't have frequency maps, but they didn't send me any hard copies.
The distribution data I supplied earlier was all of it, I found where they were keeping the info on their website and downloaded the lot. Also got international distribution data but that was repeated scientific papers.
That's odd. Funny that BDNA would do a nice map of the frequency of red hair variant carriers in Britain and Ireland but never do one of Y-DNA haplogroup distribution.
Let us now praise famous men, and our fathers that begat us.
- Wisdom of Sirach 44:1
Posts: 319
Threads: 3
Joined: Sep 2023
(10-08-2023, 07:14 PM)rmstevens2 Wrote: (10-08-2023, 04:05 PM)jdean Wrote: (10-08-2023, 02:31 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: (10-04-2023, 11:16 AM)jdean Wrote: (10-02-2023, 01:32 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: Here's another Y-DNA certificate I got from BDNA.
I didn't realize they drilled that far down
It was a real shame they didn't do more maps, though I doubt there would have been enough R-DF49 x M222 to make much sense I'd still liked to have seen it and IMO they really missed a trick not providing that data for the larger clades of L21.
That was from the Chromo2, which, for the time, was the most advanced thing going. I'm not sure they didn't have frequency maps, but they didn't send me any hard copies.
The distribution data I supplied earlier was all of it, I found where they were keeping the info on their website and downloaded the lot. Also got international distribution data but that was repeated scientific papers.
That's odd. Funny that BDNA would do a nice map of the frequency of red hair variant carriers in Britain and Ireland but never do one of Y-DNA haplogroup distribution.
Agree that's odd. In their defence they did supply each tester with a breakdown of their subclade within Britain. I remember poring over mine in those days when little information was available in general for my Y line. Scotland and England were divided into several units but Wales was a single one.
rmstevens2 and jdean like this post
Y: I1 Z140+ FT354410+; mtDNA: V78
Recent tree: mainly West Country England and Southeast Wales
Y line: Peak District, c.1300. Swedish IA/VA matches; last = 715AD YFull, 849AD FTDNA
mtDNA: Llanvihangel Pont-y-moile, 1825
Mother's Y: R-BY11922+; Llanvair Discoed, 1770
Avatar: Welsh Borders hillfort, 1980s
Anthrogenica member 2015-23
Posts: 1,308
Threads: 64
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: British
Y-DNA (P): R-FGC36981
Y-DNA (M): R-FT418639
mtDNA (M): U5a2c3a
mtDNA (P): K1a1
One reason I miss BritainsDNA, besides the fact that Dr. Jim Wilson is a great guy, is that it is nice to have an alternative to FTDNA to confirm (or dispute) one's Y-DNA results. Don't get me wrong. I am a faithful son and loyal customer of FTDNA, but it's nice to get a second opinion and have your results confirmed by an independent set of experts.
JonikW and JMcB like this post
Let us now praise famous men, and our fathers that begat us.
- Wisdom of Sirach 44:1
Posts: 517
Threads: 16
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: North Sealandic
Nationality: Middle North-American
Y-DNA (P): S28>S139>S485>S211>S257
Y-DNA (M): I2a2a1b2a1b1>Y4925
mtDNA (M): H1bt
mtDNA (P): H37
U152/S28 map
U152>L2>Z49>Z142>Z150>FGC12381>FGC12378>FGC47869>FGC12401>FGC47875>FGC12384
50% English, 15% Welsh, 15% Scot/Ulster Scot, 5% Irish, 10% German, 2% Scandi, 2% French & Dutch), 1% India
Ancient ~40% Anglo-Saxon, ~40% Briton/Insular Celt, ~15% German, 4% Other Euro
600 AD: 55% Anglo-Saxon (CNE), 45% Pre-Anglo-Saxon Briton (WBI)
“Be more concerned with seeking the truth than winning an argument”
Posts: 1,308
Threads: 64
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: British
Y-DNA (P): R-FGC36981
Y-DNA (M): R-FT418639
mtDNA (M): U5a2c3a
mtDNA (P): K1a1
(10-12-2023, 02:41 AM)Mitchell-Atkins Wrote: U152/S28 map
I thought I remembered maps like that from BritainsDNA.
JonikW, Capsian20, JMcB like this post
Let us now praise famous men, and our fathers that begat us.
- Wisdom of Sirach 44:1
Posts: 517
Threads: 16
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: North Sealandic
Nationality: Middle North-American
Y-DNA (P): S28>S139>S485>S211>S257
Y-DNA (M): I2a2a1b2a1b1>Y4925
mtDNA (M): H1bt
mtDNA (P): H37
Oddly enough, my U152 brick wall is in the only place they had 0% U152…Leinister, Ireland
U152>L2>Z49>Z142>Z150>FGC12381>FGC12378>FGC47869>FGC12401>FGC47875>FGC12384
50% English, 15% Welsh, 15% Scot/Ulster Scot, 5% Irish, 10% German, 2% Scandi, 2% French & Dutch), 1% India
Ancient ~40% Anglo-Saxon, ~40% Briton/Insular Celt, ~15% German, 4% Other Euro
600 AD: 55% Anglo-Saxon (CNE), 45% Pre-Anglo-Saxon Briton (WBI)
“Be more concerned with seeking the truth than winning an argument”
Posts: 1,308
Threads: 64
Joined: Sep 2023
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: British
Y-DNA (P): R-FGC36981
Y-DNA (M): R-FT418639
mtDNA (M): U5a2c3a
mtDNA (P): K1a1
11-10-2023, 03:47 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-10-2023, 03:55 AM by rmstevens2.)
I mentioned a couple of posts back that it was nice to have BritainsDNA as a second opinion on one's DNA test results. BritainsDNA confirmed my Y-DNA results as far as S524 (R1b-DF41), which was as far as things went back then, and my FGS mtDNA results as U5a2c3a. It's a real confidence builder to get two companies, with two different sets of scientific experts, to confirm your DNA test results.
We don't really have that now, since 23andMe doesn't go anywhere near as far as FTDNA does with Y-DNA results or with mtDNA results.
JonikW and JMcB like this post
Let us now praise famous men, and our fathers that begat us.
- Wisdom of Sirach 44:1
|