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I2-P37 STR UMAP & PCA
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The continuation of my UMAP and PCA experiments with YDNA STR111 values:

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(11-04-2023, 09:53 PM)ph2ter Wrote: The continuation of my UMAP and PCA experiments with YDNA STR111 values:
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Thank you , I have a question ,what is the difference between STR sardinian and Eastern European under subclade I-P37 < M26 ?
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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(11-04-2023, 10:58 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: Thank you , I have a question ,what is the difference between STR sardinian and Eastern European under subclade I-P37 < M26 ?


There are 111 STR values. Differences are complicated.

But here you can see the genetic kinship between various clades of P37 (Eastern European has blue twigs, Sardinia has green twigs):

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(11-04-2023, 11:40 PM)ph2ter Wrote:
(11-04-2023, 10:58 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: Thank you , I have a question ,what is the difference between STR sardinian and Eastern European under subclade I-P37 < M26 ?


There are 111 STR values. Differences are complicated.

But here you can see the genetic kinship between various clades of P37 (Eastern European has blue twigs, Sardinia has green twigs):

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Thanks you , what is TMRCA more 5000 years ?
Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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(11-04-2023, 11:47 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: Thanks you , what is TMRCA more 5000 years ?

You can see the TMRCA times inside brackets on every branch (the tree is from 2020)
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The autosomal path of Slavic I2a1:

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(11-05-2023, 11:33 AM)ph2ter Wrote: The autosomal path of Slavic I2a1:

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Ph2ter, are you able to superimpose your M458 map onto this one? As you know, there is some speculation that M458 and Slavic I2a1 were in unison at some point before the Slavic migration. It would be interesting to see if their paths crossed beforehand.
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(11-05-2023, 11:42 AM)leonardo Wrote: Ph2ter, are you able to superimpose your M458 map onto this one? As you know, there is some speculation that M458 and Slavic I2a1 were in unison at some point before the Slavic migration. It would be interesting to see if their paths crossed beforehand.

The PCA cannot be detailed in such measure to detect what you want but R1a-M458 path would look similar to this (I don't have a comprehensive list of M458 samples and their ancestors):

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