Map of ancient Slavic

[Tora_sama]

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid...375046&z=5
Who else had autosomes in G25, then there they were checked for proximity to the general Slavic populations.
With the appearance of new samples, the map will be update. To simplify the marking of haplogroups, the same colors are used as in FTDNA, if applications with the texture of the haplogroup were found in one place, then the color of the predominant one was indicated. Places with MT haplogroups only are indicated by color.
If you want to add a sample, then you need to:
1)Place
2)Haplogroups
3)Dating
4)Link to the source
Your comments and suggestions will be accepted, so do not hesitate to write.

Hello , do you can added sample KRA005 its seems to its slavic ancestry
Y-DNA:E-S3003*?
mtDNA:H23*

DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA005__AD_1214__Cov_73.63%,0.127482,0.13405,0.069013,0.068799,0.049548,0.021753,0.009635,0.015461,-0.006545,-0.021139,-0.004709,-0.009442,0.010406,0.02257,-0.006515,-0.004508,0.009909,-0.001774,0.006411,0.006753,-0.008235,-0.002968,0.006655,-0.00482,0.000239

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-75163-w

Thanks, I added, it's strange that I missed it at all.

[Tora_sama]

So there are still only two Slavic samples from the oldest period 6th - 9th centuries?

What about ancient samples from Himera and Viminacium? You will not add them?

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[Ajeje Brazorf]

Most Slavic-like samples from before Late Antiquity:

Code:

Czech_BellBeaker:I4136__BC_2300__Cov_21.24%,0.124067,0.129988,0.071653,0.0646,0.035391,0.017291,0.013631,0.020076,-0.009817,-0.003098,0.005196,-0.007793,0.004608,0.013349,-0.008279,0.000796,-0.005998,-0.00152,0.014078,0.0005,-0.009982,-0.000247,0.011092,-0.010122,-0.008622
DEU_Tollense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%,0.14797,0.145221,0.085606,0.088502,0.034468,0.035419,0.015981,0.013846,-0.006545,-0.00893,-0.009094,-0.004046,-0.00223,0.035782,0.003936,0.00411,0.022426,0.000127,-0.011187,0.007003,-0.010981,-0.003215,0.012695,-0.018557,-0.005149
Estonia_IA.SG:s19_V12_1_noUDG.SG__BC_154__Cov_14.79%,0.127482,0.121864,0.095412,0.078166,0.028928,0.025379,0.013161,0.005538,0.003272,-0.043919,0.004709,-0.001649,0.015163,0.025873,-0.001629,0.014585,0.012256,-0.000253,-0.00088,0.012381,-0.002995,-0.009274,0.005916,-0.004217,-0.010298
Hungary_IA_LaTene_o:I18226__BC_345__Cov_64.76%,0.132035,0.117801,0.069767,0.072029,0.02462,0.018128,0.008695,0.006231,-0.00409,-0.035172,0.002598,-0.01079,0.021258,0.028763,-0.016015,0.001326,0.010561,0.002534,-0.003645,0.000125,-0.003119,0.004081,0.003081,-0.007832,0.004191
POL_Maslomecz_IA_oEastEurope:PCA0103__AD_300__Cov_74.27%,0.129758,0.129988,0.076933,0.073321,0.041238,0.020638,0.00846,0.014307,0.007772,-0.019864,-0.001786,-0.003897,0.010852,0.017478,-0.006107,-0.010209,-0.014994,-0.008108,0.005782,0.007629,0.003743,0.002102,0.002342,-0.010604,-0.00455
Russia_IA_Ingria.SG:s19_VIII9_1_noUDG.SG__AD_137__Cov_15.65%,0.129758,0.118817,0.092772,0.078166,0.036622,0.030399,0.020211,0.01523,-0.005931,-0.031527,0.010068,-0.025178,0.02334,0.013625,-0.001357,-0.012861,-0.011213,0.003547,-0.003017,-0.007879,-0.004367,0.000989,-0.000739,-0.013616,-0.008143
Scythian_UKR:MJ14__BC_643__Cov_8.13%,0.135449,0.120848,0.046386,0.065569,0.035699,0.01004,0.012221,0.024922,-0.005113,-0.024602,-0.004384,-0.005245,0.025124,0.007707,-0.017644,-0.002784,0.021513,0.004687,0.010559,0.015257,0.000998,0.00507,0.013434,0.001205,-0.008742
Serbia_Viminacium_Roman_elite_1.SG:R9673.SG__AD_150__Cov_64.87%,0.133173,0.127957,0.088246,0.074613,0.043085,0.030399,0.010575,0.013153,-0.00634,-0.026789,-0.004384,-0.009741,0.015312,0.014588,-0.013301,0.0179,0.025295,-0.00266,-0.002891,0.006253,-0.001123,-0.006677,0.003204,-0.004217,0.002275

[ulf]

Viminacium Slavs also share IBD segments with Medieval Slavic samples according to Vyazov et al. study.

Is it not enough evidence that they were Slavs (combined with autosomal similarity and Y-DNA lineages)?

Just to understand power of ibd methodology in telling Balt from Slav.

Would Lithuania IA (Marvele) share IBD with Medieval Slavic samples or not? 
Would modern Latvians share IBD with Medieval Slavic or not?
Would BA Baltics (EST, LVA) share IBD or not?

Basically the more recent your common ancestry with someone is, the longer the IBD segments will be. So Slavs will share IBD with both Balts and Slavs, but the segments shared with other Slavs should be longer than the ones shared with Balts.

[Gordius]

Viminacium Slavs also share IBD segments with Medieval Slavic samples according to Vyazov et al. study.

Is it not enough evidence that they were Slavs (combined with autosomal similarity and Y-DNA lineages)?

Just to understand power of ibd methodology in telling Balt from Slav.

Would Lithuania IA (Marvele) share IBD with Medieval Slavic samples or not? 
Would modern Latvians share IBD with Medieval Slavic or not?
Would BA Baltics (EST, LVA) share IBD or not?

Basically the more recent your common ancestry with someone is, the longer the IBD segments will be. So Slavs will share IBD with both Balts and Slavs, but the segments shared with other Slavs should be longer than the ones shared with Balts.

I may be wrong, but ibd can show something only for a period of time up to 800 years. Anything older will be uninformative.

[Tomenable]

One new Slavic sample from Avar times, RKF106:

https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?...7#pid12217

[Tora_sama]

Due to the appearance of new information, I updated the map.

[bolek]

There is no point in adding samples earlier than the 6th century, since actually from the 6th century the Slavs began to be called and be Slavs.

And there is no point in searching for Indo-Europeans earlier than the XIX century, since actually from the XIX century the Indo-Europeans began to be called and be Indo-Europeans.

[Tora_sama]

One new Slavic sample from Avar times, RKF106:

https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?...7#pid12217

We need accurate geolocation, dating and a link to scientific work.

[cottager]

One new Slavic sample from Avar times, RKF106:

https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?...7#pid12217

We need accurate geolocation, dating and a link to scientific work.

Rákóczifalva Hungary, Avar period, Network of large pedigrees reveals social practices of Avar
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-0...nformation

Will that suit you?

[Tora_sama]

Один новый славянский образец аварских времен, RKF106:

https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?...7#pid12217

Нам нужна точная геолокация, датировка и ссылка на научные работы.

Ракоцифальва Венгрия, аварский период, Сеть крупных родословных раскрывает социальные практики аварцев
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-0...pc95iLlG4K 1My9OZBDI_aem_ARDY8OGtjzflrspq3LsdoWcDVgmdkV61LUPvZN-QPk0J2_VjmpoEJNQ5uoVsGCGJbjdZ2

-oVZ29_ThzKkAelwgcM#additional-information Будет ли это подходит тебе?

The article explicitly states that samples of the 2nd-6th century were used, it is not clear what specific century this person is,

[ph2ter]

Нам нужна точная геолокация, датировка и ссылка на научные работы.

Ракоцифальва Венгрия, аварский период, Сеть крупных родословных раскрывает социальные практики аварцев
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-0...pc95iLlG4K 1My9OZBDI_aem_ARDY8OGtjzflrspq3LsdoWcDVgmdkV61LUPvZN-QPk0J2_VjmpoEJNQ5uoVsGCGJbjdZ2

-oVZ29_ThzKkAelwgcM#additional-information Будет ли это подходит тебе?

The article explicitly states that samples of the 2nd-6th century were used, it is not clear what specific century this person is,

It is stated that RKF106 is from Early Avar period, mean year is 609 CE.

[Tora_sama]

The sample has been added to the map.