Sort of Famous Ancient R1b-L51 Men We Should Celebrate

[rmstevens2]

I did this same thread over at the old GenArchivist forum, but I figured it might be kind of fun to start it up here, although it might overlap with my "Famous R1b-L21" thread and GrayFox's "Famous R1b-DF27" thread. But what the heck? These threads aren't scientific papers up for peer review. They're mostly for fun.

I'm going to start with my two current favorites, the two R1b-P310 samples from the steppe pastoralist Afanasievo culture, Shatar Chuluu 1 from Shatar Chuluu, Mongolia, and Nileke 5-3, from Nileke County, Xinjiang, China (also known as Nilka County). 

In terms of autosomal DNA, both are virtually identical to Yamnaya. These screenshots tell most of the story.



Here's a map showing where those samples were found. Shatar Chuluu is number 9. Nileke 5-3 is number 6 (the site is G218 III). 

[rmstevens2]

Here's the next one: Obříství 166, R1b-L151 sample OBR003 from the 2021 Papac et paper, "Dynamic changes in genomic and social structures in third millennium BCE central Europe".

This one is especially good because, aside from the screenshot from FTDNA Discover's Ancient Connections, I have a decent photo to go with it.

 
2911 - 2875 BC

[rmstevens2]

Things are moving slowly around here, so here's another semi-famous R1b-L51 guy, Plotiště nad Labem 1, sample PNL001 from the 2021 Papac et al Bohemian Corded Ware paper, "Dynamic changes in genomic and social structures in third millennium BCE central Europe". Really great paper. Anyway, PNL001 is an R1b-U106 early Bohemian Corded Ware guy dated to  2914 - 2879 BC, which makes him and Obříství 166, R1b-L151 sample OBR003 from the post right before this one, the two oldest known Corded Ware samples thus far.

[alanarchae]

Here's the next one: Obříství 166, R1b-L151 sample OBR003 from the 2021 Papac et paper, "Dynamic changes in genomic and social structures in third millennium BCE central Europe".

This one is especially good because, aside from the screenshot from FTDNA Discover's Ancient Connections, I have a decent photo to go with it.

 
2911 - 2875 BC

I may be about to embarrass myself /senior moment but what is the object with the two holes in it’s left end (on the right under the photo?).

[rmstevens2]

I believe that is an archer's wrist guard.

[rmstevens2]

This next one wasn't an R1b-L51 man. He was an R1b-L51 male toddler, about two years old, of the Corded Ware culture. This is from p. 48 of the  Supplementary Materials for the 2021 Papac et al paper, "Dynamic changes in genomic and social structures in third millennium BCE central Europe":

Grave 29/87. Skeleton: right-sided crouched burial, head towards the west. Sex: archaeology – M, anthropology – child, aDNA – M. Age: infans (around 2). Grave goods: three shell beads, chipped industry – blade. Archaeological dating: Corded Ware culture, aceramic. Radiocarbon dating: MAMS-45792 (4177±25) 2882–2673 cal BC 2-sigma (180, 181). Pandora No.: STD002. NM Prague Inv. No.: P7A 38885.

Sample STD002, known in FTDNA Discover's Ancient Connections as "Stadice 2", was R1b-L151 (L51>L151) and dated to 2882 - 2673 BC. 

[R.Rocca]

Here's the next one: Obříství 166, R1b-L151 sample OBR003 from the 2021 Papac et paper, "Dynamic changes in genomic and social structures in third millennium BCE central Europe".

This one is especially good because, aside from the screenshot from FTDNA Discover's Ancient Connections, I have a decent photo to go with it.

 
2911 - 2875 BC

I may be about to embarrass myself /senior moment but what is the object with the two holes in it’s left end (on the right under the photo?).

It is an antler plates which are sometime reported as wrist guards, belt buckles, or bracelets. There is a good write up on this type and a distribution map on page 137 of:

Embracing Bell Beaker: Adopting new ideas and objects across Europe during the later 3rd millennium BC (c. 2600-2000 BC) (Jos Kleijne)

Pictures of other like it on page 88 of:

Kaup 2014: Arcaeology Excavations & Research History (Klavs Randsborg et al.)

[alanarchae]

Here's the next one: Obříství 166, R1b-L151 sample OBR003 from the 2021 Papac et paper, "Dynamic changes in genomic and social structures in third millennium BCE central Europe".

This one is especially good because, aside from the screenshot from FTDNA Discover's Ancient Connections, I have a decent photo to go with it.

 
2911 - 2875 BC

I may be about to embarrass myself /senior moment but what is the object with the two holes in it’s left end (on the right under the photo?).

It is an antler plates which are sometime reported as wrist guards, belt buckles, or bracelets. There is a good write up on this type and a distribution map on page 137 of:

Embracing Bell Beaker: Adopting new ideas and objects across Europe during the later 3rd millennium BC (c. 2600-2000 BC) (Jos Kleijne)

Pictures of other like it on page 88 of:

Kaup 2014: Arcaeology Excavations & Research History (Klavs Randsborg et al.)

wow thank you! They had somehow passed me by. They do look like an obvious non-stone precursor to the BB habit of wearing wrist guards. They may differ in form snf material from the BB norm but it looks like a v good case that the habit of wearing them goes back to CW. And i’ve never been 100% convinced of the function of BB wrist guards.

[alanarchae]

Here's the next one: Obříství 166, R1b-L151 sample OBR003 from the 2021 Papac et paper, "Dynamic changes in genomic and social structures in third millennium BCE central Europe".

This one is especially good because, aside from the screenshot from FTDNA Discover's Ancient Connections, I have a decent photo to go with it.

 
2911 - 2875 BC

I may be about to embarrass myself /senior moment but what is the object with the two holes in it’s left end (on the right under the photo?).

It is an antler plates which are sometime reported as wrist guards, belt buckles, or bracelets. There is a good write up on this type and a distribution map on page 137 of:

Embracing Bell Beaker: Adopting new ideas and objects across Europe during the later 3rd millennium BC (c. 2600-2000 BC) (Jos Kleijne)

Pictures of other like it on page 88 of:

Kaup 2014: Arcaeology Excavations & Research History (Klavs Randsborg et al.)

wow thank you! They had somehow passed me by. They do look like an obvious non-stone precursor to the BB habit of wearing wrist guards. They may differ in form snf material from the BB norm but it looks like a v good case that the habit of wearing them goes back to CW. And i’ve never been 100% convinced of the function of BB wrist guards.

[R.Rocca]

I missed one:

Map of bone belt clasps on page 494: On the earliest Corded Ware in Bohemia (Miroslav Dobes et al)

As per the text, half of known bone belt clasps are from Bohemia. Four graves with bone belt clasps from the Papac study:

PNL001: R-U106
OBR003: R-L151(xU106, xP312)
KON005: R-M269(low coverage, no coverage at L151, U106, P312 or Z2103)
I6696: I2a1

[R.Rocca]

Not a name that is famous outside of Switzerland, but Swiss hero Jörg Jenatsch belong to R-U152:

Y-chromosomal analysis identifies the skeletal remains of Swiss national hero Jörg Jenatsch (1596–1639)
https://www.academia.edu/12601189/Y_chro...1596_1639_