10-24-2023, 01:44 AM
Allentoft Population Genomics of Late Stone Age West Eurasia
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10-24-2023, 07:22 AM
(10-24-2023, 01:44 AM)TanTin Wrote:(10-23-2023, 07:21 PM)ph2ter Wrote: For those who want to have fun studying PCA ( the last batch of NEO samples is in bold blue, modern populations in dark pink, BS drift as bubble' sizes, etc): Yes, with slightly more ancestry from Iran. Late Neolithic similarity map:
10-27-2023, 12:31 PM
NEO261; 2112-1778 BC; Sillvik, Sweden; LNBA; I1a-DF29>Z2893 (Z63,Z58,FGC15556,A5741,Y14628,Y11204,FTB21048,PH790,BY169148)
NEO93; 1886-1689 BC; Stroby Ladeplands, Denmark; Bronze Age; I1a2a1-Z58 (xZ138,CTS8647,Z2041,A12798,Y128537,A22488)
10-27-2023, 09:26 PM
(10-27-2023, 12:31 PM)Pribislav Wrote: NEO261; 2112-1778 BC; Sillvik, Sweden; LNBA; I1a-DF29>Z2893 (Z63,Z58,FGC15556,A5741,Y14628,Y11204,FTB21048,PH790,BY169148) Can you please look at NEO83 if its yet available ?
10-27-2023, 10:57 PM
(10-27-2023, 09:26 PM)PopGenist82 Wrote:(10-27-2023, 12:31 PM)Pribislav Wrote: NEO261; 2112-1778 BC; Sillvik, Sweden; LNBA; I1a-DF29>Z2893 (Z63,Z58,FGC15556,A5741,Y14628,Y11204,FTB21048,PH790,BY169148) The files are there if that's the question.
10-27-2023, 10:59 PM
(10-27-2023, 10:57 PM)AimSmall Wrote:(10-27-2023, 09:26 PM)PopGenist82 Wrote:(10-27-2023, 12:31 PM)Pribislav Wrote: NEO261; 2112-1778 BC; Sillvik, Sweden; LNBA; I1a-DF29>Z2893 (Z63,Z58,FGC15556,A5741,Y14628,Y11204,FTB21048,PH790,BY169148) Great. The follow-up is if anyone can have a look at the sub-clades below 'R1b'
Here is Snipsa's analysis of it...
Russia_Borovyanka_EN:NEO83 Result (67.7% 453 -7 +185): R-M478 R1b -> R-L754 -> R-L389 -> R-P297 -> R-Y13200 -> R-Y13202 -> R-Y13204 -> R-M478 (ISOGG: R1b1a1a1) Extra: Z39886:A Z31464:T Z20572:T Y36343:A A2593/YP2465/V4272:T FGC9462/Y13505:T ZS5833:T L339:T F879:A CTS707/M2306:T Y7205:T FGC25426:A FGC24342:C BY15859:T Y83448:T FGC22775:T Z381/S263(H):T Z36059:A Z34118:T CTS1282:T Y18608:T CTS1433:T FTA2168/Z35900:T YP5907:T A7108:T Y20135:T YP5515:T Y2986/FGC4872:A Y85396:T GG269:A Z44937/Y36892/FGC67736:T PF2871/M3257:A Y14160:T A16438:T Z2948/V1632:T Y2915/FGC10176:T Y11954/FGC24007:A Y22529:T BY199822:A Y4764:T Y8549:T F1266:T F1295:T YP6031:A GG271:A Y14169:G Y14170:A Y3352/FGC12664:T Y32920/Z44229:T BY53833:A Y19696/BY856/GG490:T Z3986:T PF327/M11757/Z40390:A Z30508:A ZS2379:A Y139434:T Z22047:T M6385:T Y13954:A Y10620/Z30640:T Z27150:T YP1439:T Y2257:T PF3902:T YP4588:A L514:T PH1443:A Z42566:A CTS3337/PF1653:T Y4664/FGC7189:A FGC34077:A CTS3440/F3925:A FGC26392/YP2942:A Y31005/Z39090:A Y5932/V2881/FGC18754:A YP1675:T FGC35403:A YP1056:T BY14582:A Y4242:T FGC6774:A Z2320/PF4854/YSC0000183:T FGC26568/YP3035:A Z13917:T MF6584:A CTS5145/Z880:A Y4707:T Y14538:T Y95744:A Z1444/F2111:T Z19176/F5039:A YP1294:T BY21304/Z45021:T F348:T Y16548:T CTS5961:A CTS5970/M2206:A Y24472:A BY109249:T Y33763:T Y7172/FGC18600:T BY6026:T M2894:A Z43183:T Y4248:T BY32202:T F3784:T Y33222:T CTS7328/S4742:T BY21345:A FGC26873:T V6707/S2167:T Z31255:T Z30514:T Y11997/Z30622/F12267:C Y30747:T Y33850:T Z13559:A CTS8026/M3850:T F3790:A FGC26973/YP3259:A Y10644/FGC21457:T Z16288:T YP6052:A Y18429:G YP4825:T CTS9353:T FGC24090:A MF730695/L1136/V3596:G YP1303:T Y6352:T Y12911/A2423:T F2995:T FGC6979:T FGC27276/YP3433/V4134:T A2885:A Y16417:A FGC64043:A YP209/FGC8106:T YP4242:T Z17795:T Y32356:T Y14526/ZS6049:A Z35337:A M8875/Z11857:A Y23319:T Y7919:T YP1264:A M178:T Y27551:A Z4329/M3035:T FGC17470:A BY8304:T PF5573:T Z622:A Y30841:T PF3076/M3604/S7530:T Z14156:A Y20488:T Z16810/Y11969:A ZS4442:T FGC27747/ZS4443/YP3636:T FGC19131:T CTS11312:A Y1262:T FGC66342:T Z12962:A Y10283/Z11879:T FGC12504/YFS097317:A M3422:A Z2879/CTS11838:T Y31177:T GG309:T Y3988/FGC14871:A Y761/M1177:T ZS3486:A F26193:T Z31170:A Z13189:A Y7822:T FGC5206:A Y22936:A Y19883:T Z29093:T PF3434:T Links: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-M478/ https://phylogeographer.com/scripts/heat...kup=R-M478 http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracke...snp=R-M478 For grins... here is the mtDNA Haplogroup Result ( 76.6% 53 -2 +11): U4a2g Extra: T310TC A2792G C4394T G4769A G4789A C7628T C8375T C8595T G9182A C9431T T11353C
10-29-2023, 06:52 PM
(10-27-2023, 11:08 PM)AimSmall Wrote: Here is Snipsa's analysis of it... This subclade R-M73 is very interesting , there sample belong in this subclade from Tunis, maybe his cluster is South European ?
Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049 37.2 Iberomaurusian 36.8 Early_European_Farmer 12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer 8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist 4.8 SSA 0.4 Iran_Neolithic FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2 Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta + 3% Iberian Peninsula 23andME : 100% North Africa WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA) Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
10-30-2023, 02:34 PM
(10-24-2023, 07:22 AM)ph2ter Wrote:(10-24-2023, 01:44 AM)TanTin Wrote:(10-23-2023, 07:21 PM)ph2ter Wrote: For those who want to have fun studying PCA ( the last batch of NEO samples is in bold blue, modern populations in dark pink, BS drift as bubble' sizes, etc): That's the map of the Ancient Iranian Proto-Indo-European population. More Ancient samples will fill and connect the map around the Caspian Sea.
11-04-2023, 11:37 PM
11-10-2023, 02:30 AM
Code: France_EN:NEO812,0.144555,0.166547,0.065619,-0.040375,0.081246,-0.023706,-0.005875,-0.000692,0.056449,0.09859,0.002761,0.021431,-0.040882,-0.028626,-0.014115,0.005436,0.016037,0.004054,0.000628,-0.006628,0.003743,-0.000989,-0.013927,-0.032896,-0.003113 NEO911: Vengerovo-2, Russia, BC 4830
12-14-2023, 12:49 PM
As posted in the general threads:
The latest version of preprint has a new title, Population Genomics of Postglacial Western Eurasia: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...4.490594v6 The Denmark focused parts appear to have been moved to a separate article, 100 ancient genomes show repeated population turnovers in Neolithic Denmark, according to this TwitterX post: https://twitter.com/nrken19/status/1731680013928267983
12-14-2023, 01:46 PM
@Pribislav - Could you look at NEO876? "R1a" is not very detailed. It is a very early bog body and R1a was not again found in Jutland samples from this paper.
It was not mentioned in the relatedness section of the supplementary information, but NEO77 and NEO80 are close genealogical relatives.
Their time periods overlap and they were buried 54 miles apart. NEO77 = Okunevo 5 and 7 - SW Siberia 2896-2668BC - 56.438 N 74.907 E NEO80 = Borovjanka XVII - SW Siberia 3016-2668BC - 55.733 N 74.285 E |
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