Coming Soon: Y-DNA Haplogroups for Family Finder

[fj-blanco]

I've yet to see a haplogroup call based on autosomal data for any of my numerous kits or their matches.  Starting to wonder if they've changed their mind on this initiative.

I have seen several in my project (J2a-Z6065). All with the Family Finder (not raw data imported from other companies).

[AimSmall]

I've yet to see a haplogroup call based on autosomal data for any of my numerous kits or their matches.  Starting to wonder if they've changed their mind on this initiative.

I have seen several in my project (J2a-Z6065). All with the Family Finder (not raw data imported from other companies).

Your project accepts autosomal results only?

[Mabrams]

I am the admin/co-admin for two projects. About 800 people total, with 230 FF, although I dont know how many are FF-only men. 3 men have been updated.

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On my personal FF match list (about 3500 males), about at least 30 R-M269 have been updated.

Out of my 100 Most Recent Matches, back to Sept 17, there are 51 males, 16 of whom have a refined haplotype. 6 have a BigY700, so the FF-only would be 10 out of 41. The ten are spread out from Sept to the present, no real pattern.

I was under the impression that all new FF males would have a Y haplo, although I am not sure when that started. Using Dec 7 as a starting data, I have 14 males, of which 2 are BigY700s and 5 are FF-only with refined haplotypes.

Looking at an older group, matches 4000 to 4100, sorted from Most Recent Matches, I have 47 males. I only see 4 FF-only matches that appear to be updated.

By FF-only, I mean FF without a BigY. They may have had a Y12 to Y111.

Some Y matches do have haplogroups, but show as N/A on the FF list (but show with real haplogroups on other screens). I have not tried to account for this. Also, I dont know how many are uploads from other sites.

[fj-blanco]

I've yet to see a haplogroup call based on autosomal data for any of my numerous kits or their matches.  Starting to wonder if they've changed their mind on this initiative.

I have seen several in my project (J2a-Z6065). All with the Family Finder (not raw data imported from other companies).

Your project accepts autosomal results only?

Not in principle. I just have direct evidence from a couple of samples with Y-STRs + FF, showing that their haplogroup has been updated based on their Family Finder. I've also noticed a bunch of new flags suddenly appearing in the Haplotree across several clades relevant to J-Z6065 (J-BY32862, J-Z39478 and J-Z2227). Some of these flags correspond to some samples found in public projects that only have 12 or 37 Y-STR markers tested (so no Big-Y).

[jdbreazeale]

It would be really nice if FTDNA would update the display of haplos and indicate (by using different colors or some other method of indication) the level of testing: STR testing only with NO SNP confirmation (currently red), single SNP test or SNP pack confirmation (currently green), FF SNP confirmation (I don't know what color, but probably green), Big Y 500 (currently green), and Big Y 700 (also currently green). So right now there are 5 discreet levels of testing available but only 2 color indicators: severely lacking in my opinion. This should be displayed in both the match lists and the project Y-DNA results pages.

[Mabrams]

"FF SNP confirmation (I don't know what color, but probably green)"

yep, FF  Y SNPs are shown as green on Project pages.    I have seen a few of these.

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minor note.    One man I looked at received a FF SNP two days ago, even though he has a BigY pending.  I thought FTDNA might skip FF haplotyping if a BigY was pending, but that apparently is not true.

This man also had a Y prediction (presumably R-M269) last week based upon his STR results.  (Y67 and Y111 are still not showing).

[AimSmall]

So an interesting observation. I still haven't seen a FF haplogroup call on any of my kits or matches.

However, while seeking them out this morning I sorted my matches by Y-DNA Haplogroups. First shock was seeing A-XXX haplogroups. Kind of kewl.

But the bigger shock was got down into the E haplogroups and I noticed one match was still showing N/A in sorted order with the rest of the Es. Click the name to see details and sure enough it has an E haplogroup, but it doesn't show directly on the match listing. This may be my first find of a FF haplogroup call, since I don't see he has any additional testing.

So we have to open each name to see a FF haplo call???

[Riverman]

So an interesting observation.  I still haven't seen a FF haplogroup call on any of my kits or matches.

However, while seeking them out this morning I sorted my matches by Y-DNA Haplogroups.  First shock was seeing A-XXX haplogroups.  Kind of kewl.

But the bigger shock was got down into the E haplogroups and I noticed one match was still showing N/A in sorted order with the rest of the Es.  Click the name to see details and sure enough it has an E haplogroup, but it doesn't show directly on the match listing.  This may be my first find of a FF haplogroup call, since I don't see he has any additional testing.

So we have to open each name to see a FF haplo call???

That seems to be yet another bug. Even a BigY tested individual doesn't show any more.

[Mabrams]

I know that many haplogroups have been displaying as N/A in Family Finder.

But all my haplogroups are now displaying correctly.    No more annoying N/A   

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I have 5 matches with haplos from A to C.  I hadnt noticed that they are new FF haplos until I read AimSmall's comments. 

I am presuming the update is from Family Finders.  They all had Y-STR testing but not BigY. 
Of course, I cannot rule out a SNP or SNP Pack test, as those don't show.

[AimSmall]

They've got more broken now.

I can't review my Y-111 or Y-67 matches. Says I don't have any.

I have many in reality.

[jdbreazeale]

This may be my first find of a FF haplogroup call, since I don't see he has any additional testing.

So we have to open each name to see a FF haplo call???

I think this is a temporary bug -- I have noticed it too -- the haplos will show up correctly later without having to drill down.

[jdbreazeale]

It would be really nice if FTDNA would update the display of haplos and indicate (by using different colors or some other method of indication) the level of testing: STR testing only with NO SNP confirmation (currently red), single SNP test or SNP pack confirmation (currently green), FF SNP confirmation (I don't know what color, but probably green), Big Y 500 (currently green), and Big Y 700 (also currently green).  So right now there are 5 discreet levels of testing available but only 2 color indicators: severely lacking in my opinion.  This should be displayed in both the match lists and the project Y-DNA results pages.

I made a Facebook post about this in the FamilyTreeDNA® Big Y Group, and it looks like it might get some traction.

[Hygelac]

I think haplogroups for Family Finder has started again. More than 3000 kits added to the public haplotree today.

[Zet]

Autosomal transfers are now displayed in family finder matching.

[Riverman]

Autosomal transfers are now  displayed in family finder matching.

From the beginning of the year I haven't noticed any change or new assignments at all. Is the pace so slow?