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(01-24-2024, 01:31 AM)AimSmall Wrote: I've yet to see a haplogroup call based on autosomal data for any of my numerous kits or their matches. Starting to wonder if they've changed their mind on this initiative.
I have seen several in my project (J2a-Z6065). All with the Family Finder (not raw data imported from other companies).
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(01-24-2024, 06:42 PM)fj-blanco Wrote: (01-24-2024, 01:31 AM)AimSmall Wrote: I've yet to see a haplogroup call based on autosomal data for any of my numerous kits or their matches. Starting to wonder if they've changed their mind on this initiative.
I have seen several in my project (J2a-Z6065). All with the Family Finder (not raw data imported from other companies).
Your project accepts autosomal results only?
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01-24-2024, 10:21 PM
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I am the admin/co-admin for two projects. About 800 people total, with 230 FF, although I dont know how many are FF-only men. 3 men have been updated.
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On my personal FF match list (about 3500 males), about at least 30 R-M269 have been updated.
Out of my 100 Most Recent Matches, back to Sept 17, there are 51 males, 16 of whom have a refined haplotype. 6 have a BigY700, so the FF-only would be 10 out of 41. The ten are spread out from Sept to the present, no real pattern.
I was under the impression that all new FF males would have a Y haplo, although I am not sure when that started. Using Dec 7 as a starting data, I have 14 males, of which 2 are BigY700s and 5 are FF-only with refined haplotypes.
Looking at an older group, matches 4000 to 4100, sorted from Most Recent Matches, I have 47 males. I only see 4 FF-only matches that appear to be updated.
By FF-only, I mean FF without a BigY. They may have had a Y12 to Y111.
Some Y matches do have haplogroups, but show as N/A on the FF list (but show with real haplogroups on other screens). I have not tried to account for this. Also, I dont know how many are uploads from other sites.
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(01-24-2024, 07:21 PM)AimSmall Wrote: (01-24-2024, 06:42 PM)fj-blanco Wrote: (01-24-2024, 01:31 AM)AimSmall Wrote: I've yet to see a haplogroup call based on autosomal data for any of my numerous kits or their matches. Starting to wonder if they've changed their mind on this initiative.
I have seen several in my project (J2a-Z6065). All with the Family Finder (not raw data imported from other companies).
Your project accepts autosomal results only?
Not in principle. I just have direct evidence from a couple of samples with Y-STRs + FF, showing that their haplogroup has been updated based on their Family Finder. I've also noticed a bunch of new flags suddenly appearing in the Haplotree across several clades relevant to J-Z6065 (J-BY32862, J-Z39478 and J-Z2227). Some of these flags correspond to some samples found in public projects that only have 12 or 37 Y-STR markers tested (so no Big-Y).
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It would be really nice if FTDNA would update the display of haplos and indicate (by using different colors or some other method of indication) the level of testing: STR testing only with NO SNP confirmation (currently red), single SNP test or SNP pack confirmation (currently green), FF SNP confirmation (I don't know what color, but probably green), Big Y 500 (currently green), and Big Y 700 (also currently green). So right now there are 5 discreet levels of testing available but only 2 color indicators: severely lacking in my opinion. This should be displayed in both the match lists and the project Y-DNA results pages.
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01-27-2024, 02:39 PM
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"FF SNP confirmation (I don't know what color, but probably green)"
yep, FF Y SNPs are shown as green on Project pages. I have seen a few of these.
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minor note. One man I looked at received a FF SNP two days ago, even though he has a BigY pending. I thought FTDNA might skip FF haplotyping if a BigY was pending, but that apparently is not true.
This man also had a Y prediction (presumably R-M269) last week based upon his STR results. (Y67 and Y111 are still not showing).
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So an interesting observation. I still haven't seen a FF haplogroup call on any of my kits or matches.
However, while seeking them out this morning I sorted my matches by Y-DNA Haplogroups. First shock was seeing A-XXX haplogroups. Kind of kewl.
But the bigger shock was got down into the E haplogroups and I noticed one match was still showing N/A in sorted order with the rest of the Es. Click the name to see details and sure enough it has an E haplogroup, but it doesn't show directly on the match listing. This may be my first find of a FF haplogroup call, since I don't see he has any additional testing.
So we have to open each name to see a FF haplo call???
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(01-27-2024, 03:49 PM)AimSmall Wrote: So an interesting observation. I still haven't seen a FF haplogroup call on any of my kits or matches.
However, while seeking them out this morning I sorted my matches by Y-DNA Haplogroups. First shock was seeing A-XXX haplogroups. Kind of kewl.
But the bigger shock was got down into the E haplogroups and I noticed one match was still showing N/A in sorted order with the rest of the Es. Click the name to see details and sure enough it has an E haplogroup, but it doesn't show directly on the match listing. This may be my first find of a FF haplogroup call, since I don't see he has any additional testing.
So we have to open each name to see a FF haplo call???
That seems to be yet another bug. Even a BigY tested individual doesn't show any more.
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01-27-2024, 06:05 PM
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I know that many haplogroups have been displaying as N/A in Family Finder.
But all my haplogroups are now displaying correctly. No more annoying N/A
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I have 5 matches with haplos from A to C. I hadnt noticed that they are new FF haplos until I read AimSmall's comments.
I am presuming the update is from Family Finders. They all had Y-STR testing but not BigY.
Of course, I cannot rule out a SNP or SNP Pack test, as those don't show.
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They've got more broken now.
I can't review my Y-111 or Y-67 matches. Says I don't have any.
I have many in reality.
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(01-27-2024, 03:49 PM)AimSmall Wrote: This may be my first find of a FF haplogroup call, since I don't see he has any additional testing.
So we have to open each name to see a FF haplo call???
I think this is a temporary bug -- I have noticed it too -- the haplos will show up correctly later without having to drill down.
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(01-26-2024, 06:45 PM)jdbreazeale Wrote: It would be really nice if FTDNA would update the display of haplos and indicate (by using different colors or some other method of indication) the level of testing: STR testing only with NO SNP confirmation (currently red), single SNP test or SNP pack confirmation (currently green), FF SNP confirmation (I don't know what color, but probably green), Big Y 500 (currently green), and Big Y 700 (also currently green). So right now there are 5 discreet levels of testing available but only 2 color indicators: severely lacking in my opinion. This should be displayed in both the match lists and the project Y-DNA results pages.
I made a Facebook post about this in the FamilyTreeDNA® Big Y Group, and it looks like it might get some traction.
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I think haplogroups for Family Finder has started again. More than 3000 kits added to the public haplotree today.
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Autosomal transfers are now displayed in family finder matching.
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(02-13-2024, 06:37 PM)Zet Wrote: Autosomal transfers are now displayed in family finder matching.
From the beginning of the year I haven't noticed any change or new assignments at all. Is the pace so slow?
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