Coming Soon: Y-DNA Haplogroups for Family Finder

[Hygelac]

So will these new additions change the Haplotree numbers for a given branch?

If yes then there has been no additions on my line 4 branches below U152>L2)

Yes, the kits are added to the public haplotree. For example I-L22 added more than 1000 kits yesterday.

[Riverman]

So will these new additions change the Haplotree numbers for a given branch?

If yes then there has been no additions on my line 4 branches below U152>L2)

Yes, the kits are added to the public haplotree. For example I-L22 added more than 1000 kits yesterday.

But not the Blocktree or that too?

[Hygelac]

So will these new additions change the Haplotree numbers for a given branch?

If yes then there has been no additions on my line 4 branches below U152>L2)

Yes, the kits are added to the public haplotree. For example I-L22 added more than 1000 kits yesterday.

But not the Blocktree or that too?

The blocktree is also updated. But of course only as far as these new family finders haplogroups go.

[Mitchell-Atkins]

Best I can tell, it appears the

U152>L2>Z49 numbers appear to be increasing more than normal...currently 2121,
U152>L2>Z49>Z142 is currently 1027...I do know a European subset (No UK/IE) increased from 167 to 176 since 12/2/23
U152>L2>Z49>Z142>Z12222 is currently 379.

U152>L2>Z49>Z142>Z12222>FGC12378 is currently 85. I watch this branch often, and, on average it only increases once every few months so I will definitely notice if this new feature goes down to this level but so far no change.

[Riverman]

So will these new additions change the Haplotree numbers for a given branch?

If yes then there has been no additions on my line 4 branches below U152>L2)

Yes, the kits are added to the public haplotree. For example I-L22 added more than 1000 kits yesterday.

But not the Blocktree or that too?

The blocktree is also updated. But of course only as far as these new family finders haplogroups go.

For some it looks like earlier SNP tests and new FF SNP's get combined and this brings them much further down the branches than otherwise.

[Mitchell-Atkins]

Are you saying the BigY testers are getting further down, or the family finder ones are?

[Riverman]

Are you saying the BigY testers are getting further down, or the family finder ones are?

People which did an SNP test (like for R-L2 specifically) and now get additional SNP's from the Family Finder get further downstream sometimes I think.

Of course nobody gets more than BigY testers, even though those might get some SNP's as well, like I'm just presumed positive for some upstream positions.

[rmstevens2]

Still no excitement for me, although I am finding more of my FF matches with Y-DNA haplogroup assignments, guys who otherwise have done no Y-DNA testing. Found a couple of R-DF27 guys, a couple of R-DF21s, a couple of R-Z253s, etc. But thus far no results for people I'm really curious about.

[rmstevens2]

Only one of my kits updated so far but it's a very interesting one. Son of a friend who is paternally Bangladeshi/Sylheti got assigned R1b haplogroup, that is rather rare in Bangladesh, below 1% I believe. Huge surprise.

I mentioned your post over at the FTDNA Big Y Facebook group. FTDNA's Göran Runström was interested and said your friend's son might belong to something downstream of R1b-BY14355. BY14355 is just downstream of R1b-M343 and parallel to R1b-L754, which is the most frequent Y-DNA haplogroup in Europe.

There are quite a few ancient samples under BY14355 in FTDNA Discover's Ancient Connections. I started a thread on BY14355 here.
It would be great if your friend's son did the Big Y-700.

[Riverman]

I also recognised different levels of assignments per individual. Going from the lowest level it goes, it can also land 1-3 levels upward. Seems to be a bit of chance involved whether you get a more downstream assignment from FF.

[rmstevens2]

Still nothing all that interesting to me. I have 151 FF matches who are now listed as I-M253, and most of those still display "N/A" in my matches list. I also now have 46 R-M198 guys, and almost all of them also show "N/A".

None of the people I'm really watching has a Y-DNA haplogroup yet, which is the way things always seem to go.

[rmstevens2]

Are we at the Y-DNA trivia stage yet?

I see six Q-M242 among my FF matches now. What should I check on next?

[jdbreazeale]

I manage a small surname project. Yesterday I noticed that one of my members, a Y-37 tester with FamilyFinder, had a new terminal, and I confirmed this with the "Received Lab Results" report - it had a new "prediction" at the top of the list. I had previously called him I2-Y3723 (possibly Y4665) per NevGen, but FTDNA is now calling him I-FGC7189 which is one step below I-Y4665. Not too bad. They have also called 352 SNPs for him (visible on the project DNA SNP results page). That surprised me!

My dad has FF, and his results should roll out shortly. I'm interested to see how close they put him to my (and my brother's) terminal.

[Leeloo]

Only one of my kits updated so far but it's a very interesting one. Son of a friend who is paternally Bangladeshi/Sylheti got assigned R1b haplogroup, that is rather rare in Bangladesh, below 1% I believe. Huge surprise.

I mentioned your post over at the FTDNA Big Y Facebook group. FTDNA's Göran Runström was interested and said your friend's son might belong to something downstream of R1b-BY14355. BY14355 is just downstream of R1b-M343 and parallel to R1b-L754, which is the most frequent Y-DNA haplogroup in Europe.

There are quite a few ancient samples under BY14355 in FTDNA Discover's Ancient Connections. I started a thread on BY14355 here.
It would be great if your friend's son did the Big Y-700.

Thank you for the information. 

If his results would be potentially valuable to help better define R1b tree (to my understanding?), I'd like to do BigY on him but I would need some help. It's just a child, and his mother doesn't know anything about genetics. I sugested a test because person of such background is extremely unusual in my country.  

His father is out of the picture and I paid for his test from my own pocket. Now, I'd be willing to finance big Y in 1/3 of total cost, because more than that is too much for my Croatian standard and I didn't even test my own paternal line that deep because I consider it pricey.

Let me know if they have any funds there are FTDNA that can help partially finance his BigY. I know sometimes they do.

Cheers.

[jdbreazeale]

Thank you for the information. 

If his results would be potentially valuable to help better define R1b tree (to my understanding?), I'd like to do BigY on him but I would need some help. It's just a child, and his mother doesn't know anything about genetics. I sugested a test because person of such background is extremely unusual in my country.  

His father is out of the picture and I paid for his test from my own pocket. Now, I'd be willing to finance big Y in 1/3 of total cost, because more than that is too much for my Croatian standard and I didn't even test my own paternal line that deep because I consider it pricey.

Let me know if they have any funds there are FTDNA that can help partially finance his BigY. I know sometimes they do.

Cheers.

You should definitely join this kit to appropriate Y-Haplogroup projects and discuss with the admins.  The projects have (the opportunity of) funds for assisting with upgrades.