Coming Soon: Y-DNA Haplogroups for Family Finder

[ArmandoR1b]

Robin Spencer has a useful tool for this in the "Admin Utilities" under "Find All Replicate Mutations" on his website: http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/adminUtils.html

That's impressive. Now we need one cross-referenced with just the haplogroups that have a minimal numbers of Branch Participants in the Haplotree. That way the list isn't too long and it has only the haplogroups that are possibly in the autosomal tests.

[ArmandoR1b]

The full tree export is also really helpful for the future. It even has phylogenetic equivalents. I didn't notice them at first.

edit: phylogenetic equivalents

[Dewsloth]

Holy cow.  I saved the results from May 10 and just checked again, this morning.  A massive jump:
May 10 -- MAY 23 -- May 30  Jun 2
6 R-FT88174 1300 BCE 48 49  51  53  +10.4%
7 R-FT354149 1400 BCE 232 271  308   322 +38.7%
8 R-Z17112 1450 BCE 860 998  1,180   1,281 +49%
9 R-S4268 1450 BCE 1,125 1,265 1,447   1,547 +37.5%-- S4268 and S4281 SNP levels are where I am seeing new FF matches show up
10 R-S4281 1600 BCE 1,378 1,717  2,198   2,398  +74%
11 R-FGC11833 1900 BCE 1,407 1,747  2,228   2,428 +72.5%
12 R-DF88 2100 BCE 1,526 1,895  2,408   2,624 +72%
13 R-DF19 2550 BCE 2,092 2,564  3,191   3,458  +65.3%
14 [gonna start watching P312 2800 BCE ] 87,777 136,806 +55.8%

May 30 in bold+underline ^^^

Adding P312 - I had May 10 saved.

[Dewsloth]

Luxembourg reaches 100 total samples,
19 U106
16 U152
10 Hg J
9 DF27
8 Hg E
7 Hg I
5 R1a
5 DF19
5 Hg G
3 L21
2 PF7589
1 S1194

5% DF19 :eek:  Might be tops for countries over 100 results.

The current standings where N=5+.  Denmark has leapt up the ranks, maybe part of the FF YDNA surge?

Luxembourg 5 5%
Belgium 21 3%
Germany 247 2%
Netherlands 32 2%
Canada 20 2%
Denmark 20 2%
United States 211 1%
England 211 1%
Scotland 123 1%
United Kingdom 60 1%
France 43 1%
Northern Ireland 17 1%
Wales 13 1%
Czech Republic 10 1%
United States (Native American) 7 1% [I have questions about this one]
Ireland 60 < 1%
Sweden 29 < 1%
Norway 15 < 1%
Poland 13 < 1%
Switzerland 9 < 1%
Italy 8 < 1%
Russian Federation 6 < 1%

[Mitchell-Atkins]

Looks like the recent slow down in progress is over.  6000 jump from 533,132 to 539,637

Guess I spoke too soon.  Things have come to a grinding halt after my last update.  Still haven’t moved past 540,000

[Riverman]

Looks like the recent slow down in progress is over.  6000 jump from 533,132 to 539,637

Guess I spoke too soon.  Things have come to a grinding halt after my last update.  Still haven’t moved past 540,000

They put some new mtDNA and yDNA results up in the last 24 hours or so. I'm under the impression that the upload of new samples and the mass assignment of Family Finder results aren't going that well parallel, probably. The new results came in with delay. Probably when the new samples being processed, another batch of FF assignments comes next?

I'm not sure whether the parallel processes (New vs. FF) happened successfully before on one single day.

[ArmandoR1b]

The small increase yesterday looks to be from new FF v3 kits.

[Riverman]

The small increase yesterday looks to be from new FF v3 kits.

Would make sense, they obviously prioritised new samples in the last 48 hours or so IMHO.

[rmstevens2]

I was looking through my messages at Ancestry for a match of mine with my surname who subsequently ordered Family Finder when he was supposed to order a Y-DNA test from FTDNA. Evidently he did FF in 2021 and showed up there as an 18 cM match for me as of 01 July 2021.

I'm wondering why he hasn't got a Y-DNA haplogroup assignment yet. I thought FTDNA had already processed all the guys who tested with FF in 2021.

[Mabrams]

FTDNA recalculated their existing FF by July 1, 2021. New format and algorithms went into effect on July 1.

All previous tests were re-dated, although in my case, they were dated to April and May, 2021. So I am not sure if you can trust the July 1 date.

The V3s were from Spring of 2019. V2s have been updated back to 2016 with a few 2015s.

However, unless the FF was from before 2016 or its an autosomal transfer, it should have been updated by now.

[rmstevens2]

FTDNA recalculated their existing FF by July 1, 2021.  New format and algorithms went into effect on July 1. 

All previous tests were re-dated, although in my case, they were dated to April and May, 2021.    So I am not sure if you can trust the July 1 date.

The V3s were from Spring of 2019.    V2s have been updated back to 2016 with a few 2015s.

However, unless the FF was from before 2016 or its an autosomal transfer, it should have been updated by now.

I didn't write down the exact date, but the very first message I sent him at Ancestry, when I first saw him as a match there, is dated 27 March 2021. We exchanged a few messages, and then I told him about a sale FTDNA was having in April of 2021. Like I said, he popped up as a Family Finder match on 01 July 2021.

Anyway, I know he did not have FF results prior to the summer of 2021.

He may not be on my Y-DNA line (probably not), but it's odd he doesn't have a Y-DNA assignment yet.

[rafc]

Is there a branch under E-M35 which doesn't get tested?
I just wonder about the 2.173 testers which are just E-M35. Are they from an untested branch, did they do some sort of old test? Are they being SNP confirmed of some sort? Those kind of skew the statistics a bit, if they still COULD be E-V13.

No they cannot be E-V13, at least from V3 testing.   E-M78 and E-V13 were tested on V3.   As for V2, idk.  

Not sure about Z827.  But CTS10298 was tested.  Not sure about L19.

I wonder if they could come from those users which got some sort of backbone SNP confirmation? I remember a couple of cases in the last years in which people got confusing STR results and got a validation by basic SNP testing. Because standard SNP packages just covering M35 would be otherwise unusual I'd say, while at the same time the number is much too small for the general STR-tested population in the data base.

I think this is very much the case. FTDNA always forecasted the Y-Haplogroup up to a certain level based on STR. If this STR prediction didn't give a (confident) result, they ran a backbone test first. I can imagine that for many Y12 tests STR based predictions were not conclusive and backbone tests were run before returning the result.

[Mitchell-Atkins]

Looks like the recent slow down in progress is over.  6000 jump from 533,132 to 539,637

Guess I spoke too soon.  Things have come to a grinding halt after my last update.  Still haven’t moved past 540,000

Things are moving again.  Up 12k.  Now 552,007

[Mitchell-Atkins]

Of my 3245 12 marker matches 1414 are still M269. 5 are Z49, which is the closest I can hope for on this update.
Of my 379 25 marker matches, 215 are still M269.  0 are Z49.

Of my 7864 FF matches, 262 are M269, 11 are Z49

Update.  

1413 12 marker matches are M269.  Down 1. 
7874 FF matches, 259 are M269.  Down 3,  11 are Z49, no change.

[sirdan]

7874 FF matches, 259 are M269.  Down 3,  11 are Z49, no change.

Check out how many Autosomal transfers with STRs you have. They gonna stay at main haplogroup level.