Coming Soon: Y-DNA Haplogroups for Family Finder

[ArmandoR1b]

The ISOGG Autosomal DNA testing comparison chart has a count of customers in the FTDNA database. I used the WayBack Machine at https://web.archive.org/web/202400000000...ison_chart to check counts of previous years. They don't give an exact number each year. There is a large increase of 180,000 between Jan 2015 and Nov 2016. If it's half for males then that leaves 90,000 for male kits. About male 31,000 kits have been processed for 2016 not counting Jan 2016. That leaves about 59,000 kits for 2015. Almost twice the amount for 2015. The total remaining male kits are about 106,000. Which would bring the total to about 636,000.

Date Count
Dec. 22, 2012 40,000
October 9, 2013 75,000
Jan 6,2015 95,000
November 2, 2016 275,000

edit: I forgot to halve the number for males

[Mitchell-Atkins]

My estimate was based on some very rough math of how many total kits were presently in the FTDNA database which I estimated at 2 million based on last known and historical annual growth.

Think number was actually 1.98 million or something like that.

Divided 2 for men = 1 million.

Minus ~200000 for Haplotree size before this project started

= 800,000 or 790,000 if database was 1.98 vs 2 million…but new samples are always coming in.

[ArmandoR1b]

My estimate was based on some very rough math of how many total kits were presently in the FTDNA database which I estimated at 2 million based on last known and historical annual growth.

Think number was actually 1.98 million or something like that.

Divided 2 for men = 1 million.

Minus ~200000 for Haplotree size before this project started

= 800,000 or 790,000 if database was 1.98 vs 2 million…but new samples are always coming in.

I edited my post because as I was about to make another I realized I had forgotten to halve for men.

https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_tes...ison_chart shows 1,628,438 as of 10 Mar 2024 so not quite 1.98 million

[ArmandoR1b]

There are lot of kits dated 2015.  It's going to take a while for FTDNA to get through that year.  Unless they are processed by their original order date year.

From what I have noticed they are not processed by original order date of the year the kits were ordered

[ArmandoR1b]

However long it takes them to complete 2015 kits should be only a two days less than it takes them to finish the remaining. So hopefully they finish the FTDNA FF kits within the next 3 weeks.

[Riverman]

And I hope they show the MyHeritage results publicly, because one of the more interesting matches, not paternal, but still, has done one.

[Mabrams]

And I hope they show the MyHeritage results publicly, because one of the more interesting matches, not paternal, but still, has done one.

And hope that their MH is Unlocked, not just the free preview.   

Autosomal Transfers must be Unlocked to get updated.   AKAIK, this applies to MH as well.  


MH has over 4000 YSNPs, more than 23andMe v5, so some potential there.   Although which SNPs is more important than how many.

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Wouldn't it be great if MH followed FTDNA's lead and gave haplotypes to their 2-3 million men? and eventually mtDNA (although ISOGG says Zero mtDNA SNPs so if that is true, then scratch that idea).

[ArmandoR1b]

MH has over 4000 YSNPs, more than 23andMe v5, so some potential there.   Although which SNPs is more important than how many.

That could easily be determined if someone that has had a MyHeritage test ever since they went to the Illumina GSA chip is willing to extract just the Y chromosome SNPs and share that file with us.

Is there someone here in that situation?

Everyone that is tested by a specific autosomal test is tested for all the same Y-DNA SNPs.

[Riverman]

Wouldn't it be great if MH followed FTDNA's lead and gave haplotypes to their 2-3 million men?  and eventually mtDNA (although ISOGG says Zero mtDNA SNPs so if that is true, then scratch that idea).

Yup, especially since I have actual surname matches and surname variant matches at MyHeritage. Some of them are not on particularly safe positions, but others are on my grandfathers side and seem to be safe. I even offerend one of them to sponsor a STR test, but he never responded. Chances that they are actually direct paternal relatives are rather slim, but those are the best leads I got so far.

I detected a couple of STR matches which got assignments which kind of make a BigY almost superfluous, as close as they get with the assignment. I have to say, seeing those lucky ones, its a bit annoying if you are willing to invest and get nowhere, while others get all you want for free and probably don't even appreciate it. Like there are a couple of high Medieval results I've seen with FF, exactly the time frame I want to get to.

[Pylsteen]

And I hope they show the MyHeritage results publicly, because one of the more interesting matches, not paternal, but still, has done one.

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Wouldn't it be great if MH followed FTDNA's lead and gave haplotypes to their 2-3 million men?  and eventually mtDNA (although ISOGG says Zero mtDNA SNPs so if that is true, then scratch that idea).

That would be great... and give me actual haplogroups of most of my other gg-grandfathers, while now I only know my own... but then they'd have to work together even more with FTDNA even more than now due to their Y-DNA knowledge

[Mitchell-Atkins]

My estimate was based on some very rough math of how many total kits were presently in the FTDNA database which I estimated at 2 million based on last known and historical annual growth.

Think number was actually 1.98 million or something like that.

Divided 2 for men = 1 million.

Minus ~200000 for Haplotree size before this project started

= 800,000 or 790,000 if database was 1.98 vs 2 million…but new samples are always coming in.

I edited my post because as I was about to make another I realized I had forgotten to halve for men.

https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_tes...ison_chart shows 1,628,438 as of 10 Mar 2024 so not quite 1.98 million

1,628,438 / 2 = 814,219 minus ~200k = low 600k

[ArmandoR1b]

1,628,438 / 2 = 814,219 minus ~200k = low 600k

636,000 is what I show in my edited post. on May 18, with a lot of ifs, I calculated about 642,435 for the total.

So we both calculated less that 650k but more than 600K.

[Manofthehour]

The new update covers CTS8949 (Tmrca 1500 BCE) which is neat. Unsure if it covers anything deeper.

Last night I saw an influx of new CTS8949 country results and got excited because I thought they were basal, but then realized at least most of these were FF and not Big-Y results, and at least one of them are from my four Y-dna matches (all from the same family). Still neat though.

CTS8949 is certainly better than just U152, which was the result I received in 23andme (and the latest chip version, mind you)

[Mitchell-Atkins]

Luxembourg reaches 100 total samples,
19 U106
16 U152
10 Hg J
9 DF27
8 Hg E
7 Hg I
5 R1a
5 DF19
5 Hg G
3 L21
2 PF7589
1 S1194

[Dewsloth]

Luxembourg reaches 100 total samples,
19 U106
16 U152
10 Hg J
9 DF27
8 Hg E
7 Hg I
5 R1a
5 DF19
5 Hg G
3 L21
2 PF7589
1 S1194

5% DF19 :eek: Might be tops for countries over 100 results.