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Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA (DISCUSSION ONLY)
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No, that's not why. You just measured it incorrectly. You have a mistake, did you measure the average distance from Fatyanovo to all later populations in the average, but what does the Preclassical Unetice attitude towards Fatyanovo? Fatyanovo is not a descendant of him, not an ancestor, he has nothing to do with him. Understand the fact that with the Method Method, when you choose the choice of Sintashta populations, you have the closest to Fatyanovo, it is a feature of Fatyanovo, it is simply further than everyone else. This does not mean that the syntashte of Fatyanovo is the closest, it is not, it is very far away, to the Sintashta full of previous populations of closer than Fatyanovo! Look at the numbers and compare the numbers of the distance between the Sintashta and previous populations, and at Fatyanovo. Fatyanovo has the largest numbers, it is far from all.

Distance to: Corded_Ware_RUS_Fatyanovo:VOD001
0.04432995 Unetice_CZE_C:VLI060.A0101
0.04639118 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late:I7276
0.04639118 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7276
0.04673540 Bell_Beaker_CZE_lateTongueRU005
0.04701318 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late:I4886
0.04701318 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4886
0.04846029 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I13471
0.04846640 Unetice_CZE_C:MIB002
0.04906757 Unetice_CZE_C:KO1010.A0101
0.04916923 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I3588
0.04923641 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I3589
0.04931601 Unetice_CZE_C:CHL001
0.04933746 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale:I0111
0.04936510 La_Tene_CZE_IA_R1a:I13780
0.04938143 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I15825
0.04970536 La_Tene_CZE_IA:I13780_R1a-YP5267
0.04998710 Unetice_CZE_C:VLI046.A0101
0.05011272 Bell_Beaker_FRA:I1382
0.05050847 Unetice_CZE_C:MIB004
0.05090643 Unetice_CZE_preC:VLI039.A0101
0.05127372 Bell_Beaker_England:I6775
0.05144184 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX194
0.05144565 Unetice_CZE_preC:I7200
0.05147342 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late:I7278
0.05147342 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7278

Distance to: Corded_Ware_RUS_Fatyanovo:HAL001
0.03482002 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7209
0.03482002 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7209
0.03521107 Bell_Beaker_HUN:I2787
0.03573553 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:STD002
0.03636875 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7280
0.03636875 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7280
0.03849132 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:TRM006
0.03900643 Corded_Ware_POL:pcw211
0.03962773 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1011
0.03991777 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:STD001
0.04014525 Bell_Beaker_Rhine-Main:I5836
0.04138590 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:TRM003
0.04201181 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1065
0.04320155 Corded_Ware_POL:pcw070
0.04342138 Bell_Beaker_CZE_lateTongueRU004
0.04430270 Corded_Ware_DEU:I0049
0.04452775 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:RDV001
0.04458401 Corded_Ware_POL:pcw361
0.04514130 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1019
0.04547700 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1029
0.04561361 Unetice_CZE_C:MIB024.A0101
0.04565770 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:VLI016
0.04569079 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:VLI019
0.04602773 Unetice_CZE_preC_R1a-Z645:CHL003.merged
0.04609804 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I13468

Distance to: Corded_Ware_RUS_Fatyanovo:I20784
0.03689407 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1053
0.03975863 Unetice_CZE_preC_R1a-Z645:CHL003.merged
0.03989509 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1089
0.04021404 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1065
0.04128378 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1024
0.04189197 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7280
0.04189197 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7280
0.04202080 Unetice_CZE_preC_R1a-Z645:KO7001.A0201
0.04228264 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1011
0.04358953 Unetice_CZE_preC:ROU004.A0101
0.04427005 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I13468
0.04438714 Unetice_CZE_preC:VLI039.A0101
0.04524284 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX199
0.04525200 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:VLI067.merged
0.04540807 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:VLI017
0.04598074 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:STD002
0.04599707 Bell_Beaker_England:I4950
0.04608189 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX191
0.04653115 Unetice_CZE_preC:I7199
0.04676452 Bell_Beaker_NLD_LNB_EBA:I13027
0.04715713 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX188
0.04720999 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7209
0.04720999 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7209
0.04752696 Corded_Ware_POL:pcw361
0.04771695 Unetice_CZE_C:KO1015.A0102

Distance to: Corded_Ware_RUS_Fatyanovo:BOL003
0.03261783 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I11159
0.03382403 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX195
0.03546253 Unetice_CZE_preC:I7199
0.03603540 Unetice_CZE_preC_R1a-Z645:CHL003.merged
0.03643727 Corded_Ware_CZE:I6695
0.03643727 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I6695
0.03726519 Unetice_CZE_preC:BNL005.A0101
0.03764428 Battle_Axe_SWE:ber1M
0.03808054 Bell_Beaker_NLD_LNB_EBA:I13027
0.03816928 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I13468
0.03842126 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1011
0.03848723 Bell_Beaker_Rhine-Main:I5836
0.03946382 Bell_Beaker_England:I4950
0.03960093 Unetice_CZE_preC:ROU004.A0101
0.03969165 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1089
0.03969269 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1053
0.04008550 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX188
0.04077579 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX199
0.04085855 Unetice_CZE_CTongueMI010.merged
0.04095786 Unetice_CZE_C:KO1014.A0101
0.04127663 Corded_Ware_POL:pcw361
0.04145647 Unetice_CZE_preC:I7200
0.04187110 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX191
0.04245852 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5519
0.04250663 Unetice_CZE_preC_R1a-Z645:BNL004.A0101

Code:
Distance to: Corded_Ware_RUS_Fatyanovo:NIK008AB
0.02991313 Battle_Axe_SWE:RISE94
0.03053838 Unetice_CZE_preC:KNE002.A0101
0.03173294 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I15643
0.03201058 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:VLI067.merged
0.03223463 Unetice_CZE_C:KO1013.A0101
0.03232152 Bell_Beaker_POL:poz929_R1b1a
0.03273794 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX198
0.03323348 Single_Grave_DNK_Gjerrild_low_res:Gjerrild_id5
0.03344459 Unetice_CZE_preC:VLI039.A0101
0.03384959 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I7958
0.03385597 Unetice_CZE_C:KO1015.A0102
0.03391254 Unetice_CZE_EBA_R1a-Z280:I14193
0.03394297 Bell_Beaker_England:I6778
0.03445524 Unetice_CZE_preC:PMI003.B0301
0.03479009 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX191
0.03482321 Bell_Beaker_England:I6777
0.03486162 Unetice_CZE_C:MIB028
0.03496255 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:VLI085
0.03558758 Bell_Beaker_Scotland:I5385
0.03568575 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7279
0.03568575 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7279
0.03569546 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7208
0.03569546 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7208
0.03572544 Unetice_CZE_preC:VLI061.A0101
0.03610137 Unetice_DEU_EBA:I0164

Distance to: Corded_Ware_RUS_Fatyanovo:NAU002
0.02963962 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:VLI067.merged
0.03002225 Unetice_CZE_preC:ROU001.A0101
0.03130328 Corded_Ware_DEU:I1532
0.03192321 Bell_Beaker_NLD:I5748
0.03263673 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I15643
0.03312284 Corded_Ware_POL:N45
0.03335504 Corded_Ware_POL:pcw361
0.03345559 Bell_Beaker_NLD_LNB_EBA:I13027
0.03356554 Bell_Beaker_HUN:I2786
0.03459992 Bell_Beaker_NLD_LNB:I13028
0.03465466 Unetice_CZE_C:KO1015.A0102
0.03485190 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:CAH010.B0102
0.03506963 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1027
0.03516528 Bell_Beaker_NLD:I4073
0.03532313 Bell_Beaker_NLD:I4074
0.03570668 Bell_Beaker_POL:I6580
0.03571575 Unetice_CZE_preC_R1a-Z645:CHL008
0.03573507 Unetice_DEU_EBA:I0164
0.03574989 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1090
0.03579373 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7208
0.03579373 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7208
0.03600806 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7279
0.03600806 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7279
0.03616960 Unetice_CZE_preC_R1a-Z645:BNL004.A0101
0.03627382 Bell_Beaker_England:I6774

Distance to: Corded_Ware_RUS_Fatyanovo:NAU001
0.03180226 Unetice_CZE_C:MIB024.A0101
0.03290480 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1011
0.03388461 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I13468
0.03407843 Battle_Axe_SWE:RISE94
0.03477228 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:STD001
0.03499495 Unetice_CZE_preC:I7200
0.03509847 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX199
0.03547776 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5519
0.03622010 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I11159
0.03716965 Bell_Beaker_NLD:I4074
0.03727032 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX194
0.03739269 Unetice_CZE_preC_R1a-Z645:KO7001.A0201
0.03742983 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7208
0.03742983 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7208
0.03779414 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7280
0.03779414 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7280
0.03799987 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I3601
0.03830924 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:VLI067.merged
0.03837291 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1053
0.03838085 Single_Grave_DNK_Gjerrild_low_res:Gjerrild_id5
0.03845791 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I13471
0.03854957 Battle_Axe_SWE:ber1M
0.03859911 Unetice_CZE_preC_R1a-Z645:CHL003.merged
0.03860348 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX188
0.03872520 Unetice_CZE_C:MIS001.merged

Distance to: Corded_Ware_RUS_Fatyanovo:VOR004
0.02693735 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1018
0.02744681 Corded_Ware_POL:N45
0.02840681 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7279
0.02840681 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7279
0.03035043 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I15643
0.03044941 Unetice_CZE_preC:PDA002.A0101
0.03087511 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:CAH005.B0102
0.03147373 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1012
0.03184112 Corded_Ware_SWI:MX196
0.03244714 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I7480
0.03282727 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:VLI071
0.03318653 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:CAH010.B0102
0.03322159 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I0943
0.03364866 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:VLI070.A0101
0.03426625 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1027
0.03436672 Unetice_CZE_preC:I7198
0.03465717 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:VLI067.merged
0.03469554 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7208
0.03469554 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7208
0.03493490 Corded_Ware_POL:N44
0.03517419 Bell_Beaker_POL:poz929_R1b1a
0.03593980 Bell_Beaker_NLD_LNB:I13028
0.03595455 Bell_Beaker_NLD:I4074
0.03601350 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I0989
0.03603102 Corded_Ware_DEU:I1532

Distance to: Corded_Ware_RUS_Fatyanovo:IVA001
0.02876847 Corded_Ware_POL:N45
0.03467378 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:VLI017
0.03482394 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:VLI067.merged
0.03559288 Bell_Beaker_England:I2453
0.03587451 Unetice_CZE_EBA_R1a-Z280:I14193
0.03667806 Bell_Beaker_POL:poz929_R1b1a
0.03685392 Unetice_CZE_preC_R1a-Z645:BNL004.A0101
0.03701387 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7279
0.03701387 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7279
0.03732526 Corded_Ware_DEU:I1532
0.03789700 Unetice_CZE_preC:I7199
0.03798147 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late:PRU004
0.03813495 Unetice_CZE_preC:ROU001.A0101
0.03822754 Corded_Ware_POL:pcw361
0.03827612 Unetice_CZE_preC:BNL006.A0101
0.03874971 Bell_Beaker_Scotland:I5385
0.03897393 Corded_Ware_POL:N44
0.03918375 Knoviz_CZE_LBA:I13791
0.03919503 Unetice_CZE_preC:ROU003.A0101
0.03950360 Bell_Beaker_POL:I6580
0.03991302 Unetice_CZE_preC:MIG010
0.04000775 Bell_Beaker_England:I2417
0.04020227 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I0984
0.04020721 Unetice_CZE_preC_R1a-Z645:CHL003.merged
0.04033048 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1082

Distance to: Corded_Ware_RUS_Fatyanovo:HAN004
0.02530731 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:VLI067.merged
0.02728482 Corded_Ware_POL:N45
0.02827893 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7279
0.02827893 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7279
0.02830832 Corded_Ware_POL:N44
0.03052789 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I7480
0.03092879 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1027
0.03180708 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I0984
0.03239909 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7208
0.03239909 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7208
0.03240353 Bell_Beaker_NLD:I5748
0.03350104 Unetice_CZE_preC:ROU001.A0101
0.03411166 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1089
0.03415045 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I15643
0.03419305 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7207
0.03419305 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7207
0.03446264 Unetice_CZE_preC:PDA002.A0101
0.03455322 Bell_Beaker_CZE_early:TIS002.merged
0.03456637 Bell_Beaker_NLD_LNB:I13028
0.03467693 Corded_Ware_POL:pcw361
0.03509367 Unetice_CZE_preC:I7198
0.03514538 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1018
0.03536401 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1029
0.03545615 Bell_Beaker_HUN:I2786
0.03546501 Bell_Beaker_POL:poz929_R1b1a

Distance to: Corded_Ware_RUS_Fatyanovo:HAN002
0.02941052 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:TRM006
0.03099953 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1011
0.03179011 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1089
0.03202974 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:STD002
0.03317538 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7209
0.03317538 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7209
0.03455256 Bell_Beaker_CZE_early:TIS002.merged
0.03489870 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7280
0.03489870 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7280
0.03582545 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1029
0.03677880 Corded_Ware_POL:pcw361
0.03719500 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1061
0.03755956 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:STD001
0.03780405 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late:PRU004
0.03822762 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1088
0.03932954 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I0989
0.03951909 Corded_Ware_CZE:I7208
0.03951909 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:I7208
0.03976962 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1022
0.03999726 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1019
0.04014194 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:I1055
0.04028058 Corded_Ware_CZE_early:TRM003
0.04057617 Pseudo-Corded_Ware_CZE_early:VLI011
0.04062208 Unetice_CZE_EBA:I13468
0.04063293 Corded_Ware_CZE_late:VLI016


So to speak, "If Papuas from Timbuktu is closest to Europeans, this does not mean that Europeans are closest to the Papuans, just Papuans are very far from everyone."

It is clearly visible that Sintashta is much closer to Central Europe (especially to post-CWC) than Fatyanovo to Sintashta! But with the origin of one from the other, it would be necessary to be the other way around. These distances are irrefutable, they clearly show that Sintashta comes from the post-CWC culture of the Staro (Old) Unetice (preclassicl Unetice_CZE_preC, different culture to classic Unetice) of the circle.

In Europe, due to poor communication with Russian archeology, they practically do not remember that in the Urals there is an enclave of the Staro (old) Unetice of culture, not the usual classic Unetice which is not in the Urals, namely the old Staro Unetice next to the territory of Sintashta. Until our times, no one knew how to interpret this fact.
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