10-06-2023, 02:11 AM
PopGenist82:
“I advocate a population approach - the glottogenesis of proto-Germanic must be where the proto-Germanic tribes coalesced. The dominance of R1b-U106 and I1, now attested beyond dispute in Iron Age and Roman era Germanic and Nordic people, places the Germanic homeland centred on Jutland (but being more expansive than that) within the cultural context of the NBA.”
Does the expansion of these paternal lineages agree temporally with the Germanic expansion? If not, then they are not related to the expansion of Germanic languages but are either older or younger phenomena. It would be upside-down to just decide that they must be connected to the Germanic expansion. How would such a decision be any more credible than any other arbitrary decision concerning other (probably mostly extinct) languages?
PopGenist82:
“The Baltic zone & central -eastern Sweden are a periphery. Lang’s thesis about Bronze Age Germanic colonists in the east Baltic is in serious need of update, as they’re clearly “Balto-Slavs”.”
You are welcome to show your evidence supporting that claim. Was your Balto-Slavic spoken in Bronze Age Sweden? Stone Cist graves spread from Sweden to East Baltic.
“I advocate a population approach - the glottogenesis of proto-Germanic must be where the proto-Germanic tribes coalesced. The dominance of R1b-U106 and I1, now attested beyond dispute in Iron Age and Roman era Germanic and Nordic people, places the Germanic homeland centred on Jutland (but being more expansive than that) within the cultural context of the NBA.”
Does the expansion of these paternal lineages agree temporally with the Germanic expansion? If not, then they are not related to the expansion of Germanic languages but are either older or younger phenomena. It would be upside-down to just decide that they must be connected to the Germanic expansion. How would such a decision be any more credible than any other arbitrary decision concerning other (probably mostly extinct) languages?
PopGenist82:
“The Baltic zone & central -eastern Sweden are a periphery. Lang’s thesis about Bronze Age Germanic colonists in the east Baltic is in serious need of update, as they’re clearly “Balto-Slavs”.”
You are welcome to show your evidence supporting that claim. Was your Balto-Slavic spoken in Bronze Age Sweden? Stone Cist graves spread from Sweden to East Baltic.
~ Per aspera ad hominem ~
Y-DNA: N-Z1936 >> CTS8565 >> BY22114 (Savonian)
mtDNA: H5a1e (Northern Fennoscandian)