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Uralic populations in the qpAdm models by Zeng et al. 2023
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Zeng et al. write: “A genetic turnover by ~4.5kya saw the emergence of a population in Northeast Siberia, Yakutia_LNBA. Today, this ancestry tends to be the only East Asian ancestry present among Uralic-speaking populations, a striking feature not shared by any other ethnolinguistic grouping.”
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...1.560332v1

I collected all plausible “double true” qpAdm models (TRUE/TOSI in both: 1. no negative components; 2. P > 0.05 unless no model has that) for the Uralic populations from Zeng et al. 2023, Supplementary file S6. Eastern ancestry here means Central, East and Northeast Asian ancestries, including the Yakutia, Tyumen, Mongolia, Altai, China, and BMAC ancestries.

As far as I can see, their qpAdm results do not justify their interpretation that we could now conclusively exclude all the other eastern ancestries except the Yakutia ancestry from the Uralic ethnogenesis. And certainly we cannot exclude the European ancestries (CWC related and EEF related).


The Estonians:
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.03
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.02
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.02

The Finns:
Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.02
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.01

The Karelians:
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.04
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.03
Altai_N + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.02
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.02
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.02
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.01

The Vepsians:
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.04
Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.03
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.02
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.01

The Saamis:
Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.97
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.93
BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.90
Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.90
BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.80
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.79
BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.71
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.63
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.63
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.46
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.43
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.13
Altai_N + Germany_EN_LBK + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.09
Altai_N + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.09
EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.06
Tyumen_HG + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.06
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.05

The Mordovians:
Germany_EN_LBK + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.08
Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.08
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.05
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.05

The Maris:
Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.53
Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.49
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.46
BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.46
EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.45
Germany_EN_LBK + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.42
Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.41
Tyumen_HG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.41
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.41
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.37
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.36
Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.36
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.34
Tyumen_HG + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.33
EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.33
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.33
Altai_N + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.32
Altai_N + Germany_EN_LBK + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.32
Germany_EN_LBK + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.29
Tyumen_HG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.29
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.29
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.28
BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.28
Tyumen_HG + BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.27
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.25
BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.25
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.23
Altai_N + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.22
Tyumen_HG + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.22
Altai_N + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.21
Tyumen_HG + BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.21
Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.20
Altai_N + Germany_EN_LBK + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.19
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.18
Tyumen_HG + BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.15
Altai_N + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.12
Altai_N + BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.11
EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.06
Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.06
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Mongolia_N_North + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.05

The Komis:
Germany_EN_LBK+EHG+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.005
Tyumen_HG+Germany_EN_LBK+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.001

The Udmurts:
EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.05
BMAC + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.03
EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.03
Tyumen_HG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.02
Tyumen_HG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.02
BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.02
BMAC + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.01

The Mansis:
BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.76
BMAC + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.61
EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.55
Tyumen_HG + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.47
BMAC + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.44
Altai_N + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.42
Tyumen_HG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.41
EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.41
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.37
Tyumen_HG + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.34
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.32
Tyumen_HG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.29
Altai_N + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.29
Tyumen_HG + BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.29
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.26
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.20
Tyumen_HG + BMAC + Germany_EN_LBK + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.17

The Khantys:
EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.01
Tyumen_HG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.01
BMAC + EHG + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.01

The Selkups:
EHG+Mongolia_N_North+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.36
Altai_N+EHG+Mongolia_N_North+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.34
Tyumen_HG+EHG+Mongolia_N_North+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.29
BMAC+EHG+Mongolia_N_North+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.26
EHG+Mongolia_N_North+China_YR_MN+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.23
Altai_N+Tyumen_HG+EHG+Mongolia_N_North+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.23
Altai_N+BMAC+EHG+Mongolia_N_North+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.19
EHG+China_YR_MN+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.18
Tyumen_HG+Germany_EN_LBK+EHG+Mongolia_N_North+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.17
Tyumen_HG+Germany_EN_LBK+Mongolia_N_North+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.16
Altai_N+EHG+China_YR_MN+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.14
BMAC+EHG+Mongolia_N_North+China_YR_MN+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.14
BMAC+EHG+China_YR_MN+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.13
Tyumen_HG+EHG+China_YR_MN+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.12
EHG+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.10
Altai_N+EHG+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.11
Altai_N+BMAC+Germany_EN_LBK+EHG+Mongolia_N_North+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.11
BMAC+EHG+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.09
Altai_N+BMAC+EHG+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.07
Altai_N+BMAC+EHG+China_YR_MN+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.07
Tyumen_HG+Mongolia_N_North+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.06
Altai_N+Germany_EN_LBK+EHG+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.06

The Enets:
EHG + Mongolia_N_North + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.47
EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.46
EHG + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.44
Tyumen_HG + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.33
Tyumen_HG + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.32
BMAC + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.29
BMAC + EHG + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.29
BMAC + EHG + Mongolia_N_North + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.27
Tyumen_HG + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.25
Tyumen_HG + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.22
Tyumen_HG + Mongolia_N_North + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.20
BMAC + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + EHG + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.17
Tyumen_HG + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + Mongolia_N_North + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.17
Tyumen_HG + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.16
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Mongolia_N_North + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.16
Tyumen_HG + Hungary_EN_HG_Koros + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.16
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + Mongolia_N_North + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.11
Tyumen_HG + Germany_EN_LBK + China_YR_MN + Yakutia_LNBA + Russia_Srubnaya = 0.09

The Nganasan:
Tyumen_HG+Mongolia_N_North+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.03
Tyumen_HG+Mongolia_N_North+China_YR_MN+Yakutia_LNBA+Russia_Srubnaya = 0.02
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