10-07-2023, 08:08 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-07-2023, 08:24 AM by PopGenist82.)
(10-07-2023, 07:53 AM)Jaska Wrote: Naturally, an answer is insufficient without evidence. So, what is your evidence? Here are arguments supporting movement from Scandinavia to the East Baltic Region in the Bronze Age:
- Scandinavian grave types (Stone Cist graves and ship-shaped graves) and other cultural traits from the Nordic Bronze Age culture.
- “When comparing Estonian CWC and EstBA using autosomal outgroup f3 and Patterson’s D statistics, the latter is more similar to other Baltic BA populations, to Baltic IA and
Middle Age (MA) populations, and also to populations similar to WHGs and Scandinavian hunter-gatherers (SHGs), but not to Estonian CCC. The increase in WHG or SHG ancestry could be connected to western influences seen in material culture and facilitated by a decline in local population after the CCC-CWC period.” (Saag et al. 2019: 2)
The first is not proof of anything,. Stone cists are found in Dalmatia as well. Are they from Sweden ?
The second point I'm afraid doesnt support any of your contentions either. I already explained the proof before and it's understandible to anyone with a basic grasp of genetics.
Quote:Indeed, anthropologists and sociolinguists concern themselves with questions “how” and “why”. But this can be done only after historical linguists have answered the questions “when” and “where”. Other way round it does not work.
The migration aDNA has outlined is consistent with when and where. If you do not accept that, then I guess you propose that Fino-Uralic blew in with the wind rather than human beings.
Moreover, you're over confident in your 'linguistic dating', its only as robust as the archaeological foundations it is built. Given that some members of this forum are still of the view that the Baltic bronze age was Germanic, and Fatyanovo Baltic, an open reappraisal of the view points must be undertaken