(12-05-2023, 04:54 PM)rmstevens2 Wrote:(12-05-2023, 01:05 PM)Riverman Wrote:(12-05-2023, 12:49 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: I saw four more of my FF matches today who are merely R-P312, which, although far better than R-M269, can only be described as disappointing.
Yikes!
If they do something like E-V13 for my matches that would be completely useless. Because I know that 99 % of my STR matches are E-V13. Even something like E-Z5017, E-Z5018 etc. would be a catastrophy for the STR matches.
And its not even enough for autosomal matches to sponsor a test, unless there is a genealogical indication, because E-V13 or something like E-Z5017/18 is just too common to be predictive enough for having a better chance of a closer match. I have E-V13 autosomal matches which are not related on my paternal side, its just not enough if they don't go further.
I found one of my FF matches who is now listed as E-V13. I think that's new and a result of Family Finder, but I'm not sure.
FTDNA didn't give out E-V13 predictions based on STR haplotypes prior to this, did they? Wasn't that kind of stock prediction always just E-M35?
I know for most R1b guys the standard prediction based on haplotype was R-M269.
Yes, the standard prediction is E-M35. But if I look at my 25 STR matches, I already get mostly, not exclusively, closer matches to my branch. Yet its not enough to narrow things down sufficiently. I need to get closer to about 1.000 BC with the prediction to work with it. 23andMe did achieve that with their newest chip and update for many. Its a shame if FTDNA stops at E-V13 regularly.
I mean there are people which are actually E-V13 and can't be assigned to a major branch even on 23andMe, but many can.
I still haven't seen any new assignments.