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Locating Proto-Uralic
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(11-09-2023, 01:12 PM)Jaska Wrote: However, according to mainstream etymological research, of those only vasara is an Indo-Iranian word.
https://kaino.kotus.fi/suomenetymologine...sepp%C3%A4

Yes, I know. They are just defined as "early Finnic origin" with some odd meanings - example would be word for silver: Hopea. 

It's reconstructed to early proto-Finnic as *šopeδa and the meaning would be something close to 'soft'. I have nothing against the recostructed form, it is what is. Word silver in most IE languages has (atleast had) kind of dual meaning, both the metal itself but also colour white. Same as gold as metal and yellow as colour. Now it just happens to be that colour white in Sanskrit is translittered as something like śvetaḥ and in Avestan spaēta. Obviously there are quite a few steps missing in between from both sides. There are similar cases for rest of my examples and I do fully acknowledged that getting 100% proof is propably impossible. Parpola has written about both Vasara (axe/hammer) and Vaaja (thunderbolt). Both are epiteths of of deity Indra, swinging with Vazra to smite enemies and then trowing them with Vajra to finish the job. These weapons are obviously typical for IE deities from Zeus to Thor to Perkunas but the Finnic words are indeed suspiciously close to Indo-Iranian names. 

Thanks for the pdf tip, I'll try openAI with VladMC's pdf. 
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Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 10-07-2023, 07:34 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by VladMC - 10-11-2023, 07:43 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-08-2023, 07:28 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Mythbuster General - 11-08-2023, 01:42 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-08-2023, 02:41 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Parastais - 11-09-2023, 06:26 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-09-2023, 08:05 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by PopGenist82 - 11-09-2023, 06:58 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Parastais - 11-09-2023, 08:30 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-09-2023, 09:18 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Parastais - 11-09-2023, 09:29 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by VladMC - 11-09-2023, 09:49 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-09-2023, 10:35 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-09-2023, 10:48 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by VladMC - 11-09-2023, 11:51 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Parastais - 11-09-2023, 11:58 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-09-2023, 01:12 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by SeriesOfExtraordinaryEvents - 11-09-2023, 01:57 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-09-2023, 02:17 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-09-2023, 01:58 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Parastais - 11-09-2023, 03:26 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-09-2023, 03:54 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Parastais - 11-09-2023, 04:06 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Parastais - 11-09-2023, 04:21 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-09-2023, 06:32 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-09-2023, 06:49 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Parastais - 11-09-2023, 06:49 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-09-2023, 07:05 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Parastais - 11-09-2023, 07:16 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by VladMC - 11-10-2023, 04:13 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Zelto - 11-10-2023, 09:44 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by VladMC - 11-10-2023, 11:23 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-10-2023, 10:33 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Zelto - 11-10-2023, 08:58 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by PopGenist82 - 11-10-2023, 09:02 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 11-10-2023, 10:05 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Rober_tce - 11-10-2023, 11:07 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Rober_tce - 02-23-2024, 11:55 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 02-23-2024, 09:23 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Anglesqueville - 02-24-2024, 08:51 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 02-24-2024, 09:29 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Anglesqueville - 02-24-2024, 03:22 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Kale - 02-25-2024, 05:43 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 02-24-2024, 04:14 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Anglesqueville - 02-25-2024, 08:39 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Anglesqueville - 02-25-2024, 04:26 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Anglesqueville - 02-25-2024, 09:24 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Kale - 02-26-2024, 07:28 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 02-25-2024, 10:26 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Æsir - 02-26-2024, 11:50 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 02-26-2024, 12:44 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Æsir - 02-26-2024, 01:32 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Æsir - 02-26-2024, 04:23 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Anglesqueville - 02-26-2024, 05:15 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Æsir - 02-26-2024, 05:32 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Anglesqueville - 02-26-2024, 10:32 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Kale - 02-27-2024, 02:28 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Anglesqueville - 02-27-2024, 07:14 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Kale - 02-27-2024, 03:45 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 02-26-2024, 11:31 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Æsir - 02-27-2024, 06:26 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 02-27-2024, 09:56 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Æsir - 02-28-2024, 10:26 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 02-28-2024, 03:25 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by kolompar - 02-29-2024, 07:34 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 02-29-2024, 11:22 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 04-17-2024, 01:15 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by VladMC - 04-17-2024, 03:37 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Jaska - 04-18-2024, 05:39 AM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by Kale - 04-18-2024, 08:56 PM
RE: Locating Proto-Uralic - by kolompar - 04-18-2024, 09:04 PM
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