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Sephardic Jews DNA results
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(05-22-2024, 12:06 PM)Rober_tce Wrote: After 1492, some hispanic jews arrived to Holland since Portugal, even the converted of jews did the same after 1520 due to the pressure and repression of Inquisition.

Do you have jewish matches? They can even being ashkenazim (some dutch sephardim migrated to East Europe and mixed with ashkenazim). For me is the best form to determinate jewish ancestry. Put attention also in your family tree, if you can go beyond 16th or 17th-18th century and find a jewish ancestor would be great. I know very little about dutch names more frequent between dutch sephardim, but it’s clear they addopted dutch names for survival.

In tests companies your father have some levantines traces or others whose could indicates Middle East/jewish genetic? 

Seeing your diagrame, I see considerable levantine markers in comparison, according your land of origin would should be less.

Indeed on those diagrams which consist of 5 admixture by your dna portal on chromosome level. Here are on lots of chromosome traces of Levantine, Canaat even Kushite results (all related to Semite spread). I'm not in the position to judge how reliable those results are. But even taken with salt I guess the Levantine/ Near East result combined with some Iberian (Roman, Arab time) results this indicated for me a diluted still recognizable Sefardim infused result.

For me is a trace autosomal very important, because this shows that-seen from my father- 7 generations ago we are in the 17 th century in which there was a spread of Sefardim towards the Northern Netherlands. And it also important because my Y-DNA, E-V22/ E-L1401 line has most probably (I would say 95% sure!) a Levantine origin. Still the persons with the E-L1401 cross their lines 5500 years ago! That is a big time laps.

But as I can show that there is a trace in the autosomal, then the influx is more recent! That explains my eagerness with regard to that.  And with recent I mean the 17th century. A pretty recent influx of such a solitary line contains much logic because every generation a line can get extinct, so a pretty recent influx is more likely than an ancient one.

When it comes to matches, it's difficult with such a trace level. My dad has two Israeli matches on my heritage, but of course they are not big (seen the trace level).

There is a genealogist who has spend 40 years in the archives to study my genealogy (and related other families). All I can say is that end 17th century they were Frisian, catholic skippers, with Frisian names (Haye, Fokke, Jan). Not really a Sefardim environment. 

Nevertheless the Sefardim/conversos who flied to the Northern Netherlands not all became part of the Sefardim community. There are even families in which they converted them to reformed Christianity. A famous example is the family Hora. Moses Aaron Hora flied to Friesland and we see a marriage with Frisian girl Fokeltje and their heirs were Christian.....much was possible in 17th century Dutch/ Frisians.....

https://www.genealogieonline.nl/stamboom...te-familie
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Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Jalisciense - 10-02-2023, 08:58 AM
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RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by szin - 04-30-2024, 06:23 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Jalisciense - 12-06-2023, 01:10 AM
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RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by szin - 05-21-2024, 09:47 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rodoorn - 05-22-2024, 07:44 AM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Cceeoo - 05-21-2024, 10:02 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rober_tce - 05-22-2024, 12:06 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rodoorn - 05-22-2024, 05:50 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rodoorn - 05-23-2024, 02:31 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rober_tce - 05-23-2024, 04:49 PM
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RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Riverman - 05-23-2024, 03:12 PM
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RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by samuelchl - 05-24-2024, 09:43 AM
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RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by samuelchl - 05-24-2024, 09:57 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by szin - 05-26-2024, 03:22 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Vinitharya - 05-26-2024, 06:06 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rodoorn - 05-28-2024, 10:09 AM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rober_tce - 05-28-2024, 12:58 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rodoorn - 05-31-2024, 05:02 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rober_tce - 06-01-2024, 08:10 AM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rodoorn - 06-12-2024, 06:06 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rober_tce - 06-13-2024, 08:38 AM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Traveler - 06-10-2024, 10:05 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rodoorn - 05-31-2024, 06:30 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by szin - 05-31-2024, 09:32 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rodoorn - 06-09-2024, 07:28 AM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rober_tce - 06-17-2024, 09:37 AM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Rober_tce - 06-28-2024, 04:37 PM
RE: Sephardic Jews DNA results - by Traveler - 06-30-2024, 05:22 PM

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