Coming Soon: Y-DNA Haplogroups for Family Finder

[ArmandoR1b]

I think you may have misread my post.  I'm talking about my father-in-law (wife's father):

He's O-CTS11727 and his closest Y ancient is "Dushan 4-1, a man who lived between 7024 - 6643 BCE during the East Asian Neolithic Age and was found in the region now known as Dushan, Guangxi, China.Dushan 4-1.  Shared ancestor 13,000 BCE
You and Dushan 4-1 share a common paternal line ancestor who lived around this time.
Rare Connection, 1 in 740, Only 504 customers are this closely related to Dushan 4-1."

It is sad that they have not even distinguished between O-CTS201 and O-M7. These two primary subclades of O-CTS11727 have very different distributions at present. O-CTS201 is found in Korea and Japan (O-CTS201 > O-FGC50590 > O-MF114497), along the eastern coast of China (O-CTS201 > O-FGC50590(xMF114497)), or mostly in southeastern China (O-CTS201 > O-M159). O-M7 is found mostly among Hmong-Mien and Austroasiatic populations (O-M7 > O-F1276) or among Austronesians (O-M7 > O-Y26395). Dushan 4-1 belongs to O-M7 > O-F1276 > O-F1275 according to FTDNA Discover.

That's the problem with haplogroups based on Y-DNA SNPs from arrays. They are too limited. It's something that I have pointed out several times in this thread. Of course there are anecdotes of some people getting really good results but their lineages were heavily tested prior to the release of FF v2 and so on.

With the FIL of Dewsloth we have the anecdote of a poorly tested lineage. It's due to the database imbalance due to lack of interest and so on.

I am sure if Dewsloth were interested in getting his FIL a Big Y test he would and then maybe his FIL gets a much younger subclade. Maybe not. That's the risk of spending a lot on Big Y.