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E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
(10-03-2023, 02:52 PM)rafc Wrote: Based on the Y-DNA, I would guess 5-6 out of those 11 in Romania are not from the "Real Sarmatians". That puts V13 at 15-20%, which is indeed much less than south of the Danube. On the other hand, one less or more sample could make the difference between 0% or 30-40% :-) It also seems two of the sites sampled in Romania are really close to the Danube, so will be interesting to see where the non-"Real Sarmatians" were found. The non-"Real Sarmatians" from Romania also look quite EEF-rich, more so than most in Hungary.

For Sarmatian era Hungary I have to look back at the samples from the 2022 study to see what can be derived by elimination.

(03-28-2024, 10:29 AM)corrigendum Wrote:
(03-28-2024, 10:26 AM)Riverman Wrote: The modern testers have more recent TMRCA with others from Germany, France, England and Italy, but not the Balkans. This proves they came from a separated population.

No, it doesn't because of co-migration events. And most of the in-group "recent TMRCA" is Roman/post-Roman in any case.

The only thing that actually matters is aDNA and aDNA tells us that E-V13 hasn't been found in hundreds of samples from Germany, France, England and central/northern Italy.

Again double standards. You use the same patterns as an argument for the Southern Balkans but discredit it for the rest of Europe. Such a pattern requires whole tribes to move.

Not necessarily whole tribes to Western Europe, but separate route from a Northern block in the Carpathian sphere.
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RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data - by Riverman - 03-28-2024, 10:35 AM

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