03-18-2024, 12:58 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-18-2024, 02:29 AM by TanTin.
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(03-17-2024, 09:09 PM)kolompar Wrote: To me it feels like the idea of Basal was built on the assumption that the Out of Africa was Y-haplogroup CT and E is native to the Middle East and represents this basal population. Then we got the Iberomaurusians and it looks more like E is just a recent migration and the basal signal is mostly caused by just this Iberomaurusian admixture and the erronous models based on it.
But the idea of Basal sticked around for some reason and everyone keeps choosing their own population to call Basal Eurasian (some have even chosen ANE, believe it or not ).
If it's really from a population earlier than the main OoA wave, I don't see any evidence that there's such admixture in Eurasia apart from the Iberomaurusians. Shouldn't there be a simple f-stat that show it, without assumptions like Ust-Ishim is unadmixed OoA? We have all kinds of haplogroup A, B, E Africans. Or are they too mixed with earlier African populations or later West Eurasians?
Or is Basal simply just the earliest split of the same OoA population, without Neanderthal? I'm not even sure about the lower Neanderthal part...
(Not sure if these f4 stats are readable but they are supposed to show Jomon, Hoabinhian, Longlin and possibly AASI are similarly low Neanderthal.)Code:pop1 pop2 pop3 pop4 est se z p n
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Iran_GanjDareh_N Laos_Hoabinhian.SG 0.000191843 0.000630904 0.304076412 0.761069677 261242
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Georgia_Satsurblia.SG Laos_Hoabinhian.SG 0.000244638 0.000862176 0.283745025 0.776605787 161463
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Turkey_Epipaleolithic Laos_Hoabinhian.SG -0.001266509 0.000842443 -1.503375797 0.132742164 219501
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Israel_Natufian_contam Laos_Hoabinhian.SG -0.000777554 0.000884331 -0.879256897 0.379262001 135789
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Morocco_Iberomaurusian Laos_Hoabinhian.SG 0.001130316 0.000687243 1.644712381 0.100029138 262010
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Iran_GanjDareh_N Japan_Jomon.SG 0.000794769 0.000557704 1.425073065 0.154136082 380577
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Georgia_Satsurblia.SG Japan_Jomon.SG 0.000339939 0.000745916 0.455733901 0.64858134 230556
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Turkey_Epipaleolithic Japan_Jomon.SG -0.001146785 0.000707427 -1.621065171 0.105003663 320134
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Israel_Natufian_contam Japan_Jomon.SG -0.000671692 0.000776237 -0.865318722 3.87E-01 195464
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Morocco_Iberomaurusian Japan_Jomon.SG 0.00081042 0.000591526 1.370049419 0.170671476 381263
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Iran_GanjDareh_N Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2 0.000242659 0.000319817 0.758744244 0.448005565 499896
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Georgia_Satsurblia.SG Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2 0.000142991 0.000549587 0.260178604 0.794726008 295313
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Turkey_Epipaleolithic Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2 -0.001397298 0.000532291 -2.625064372 0.008663259 423227
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Israel_Natufian_contam Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2 -0.001217822 0.000550002 -2.214213397 0.026814103 260012
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Morocco_Iberomaurusian Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2 0.000795812 0.000425867 1.868685471 0.061666587 499095
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Iran_GanjDareh_N China_Fujian_Qihe_Epipaleolithic 0.001071602 0.000549066 1.95168095 0.050976096 360096
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Georgia_Satsurblia.SG China_Fujian_Qihe_Epipaleolithic 0.001358032 0.000787727 1.723988868 0.084709853 215017
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Turkey_Epipaleolithic China_Fujian_Qihe_Epipaleolithic -0.000241672 0.000686099 -0.352240189 0.724658139 309304
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Israel_Natufian_contam China_Fujian_Qihe_Epipaleolithic 0.00041958 0.000786175 0.533698288 5.94E-01 197221
Cameroon_SMA Altai_Neanderthal.DG Morocco_Iberomaurusian China_Fujian_Qihe_Epipaleolithic 0.001696777 0.00059482 2.852590958 0.00433644 360836
Here is a full visualization for this data: