Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...

[leonardo]

FamilyTreeDNA has added two Wielbark culture samples from this study with R-Z18 to their Discover tool, samples PCA0531 and  PCA0485.

These samples were already there when I created this spreadsheet a few weeks ago (see 'Data' sheet) - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...ue&sd=true

So it appears that about 1/2 of the samples are non Gothic, not surprising as most lands are never totally depopulated. Aside from I-M253, what other haplogroups could be considered as having arrived with the Goths?

I wouldn't call them non-Gothic or non-Germanic as nearly all samples are clearly Scandinavian-like/Germanic-like.

G-L497 samples...

Distance to: Wielbark_culture_Weklice:R11391
0.03890790 Icelandic
0.04157222 Danish
0.04262267 Norwegian

Distance to: Wielbark_culture_KowalewkoCA0015
0.05336708 English_Cornwall
0.05479258 English
0.05621890 Orcadian

Distance to: Wielbark_culture_KowalewkoCA0027
0.03210769 Swedish
0.03772492 German_Hamburg
0.03865952 Norwegian

Distance to: Wielbark_culture_KowalewkoCA0036
0.04374891 Norwegian
0.04438660 Swedish
0.04462843 Danish

Distance to: Wielbark_culture_KowalewkoCA0062
0.02802380 Swedish
0.02939251 Norwegian
0.03015120 German_Hamburg

Distance to: Wielbark_culture_KowalewkoCA0063
0.02921649 Danish
0.02949163 Swedish
0.03164527 German_Hamburg
Dista

I understand this. A few generations can change a person's autosomal admixture. Still, when we think of patriarchal societies - haplogroups are a strong indicator of clans and tribes. We know that M458, Z280 and CTS1211 were most unlikely to have been transported with the Goths. I would think the same for the J and E haplogroup samples. How about G-L497? Would this group have come with the Goths?