Nowhere Man: R1b-FT360002

[rmstevens2]

Here is my R1b-PF6323 Descendant Tree again so that you can see where FT360002 is. It has two descendant branches, FT360000 and FTA35718, and that's it. That's where things stop. Apparently, as far as we know, both of those lines are extinct and, thus, so is FT360002 as a whole.



When you go to R-FT360002 in FTDNA Discover and click on Country Frequency, you get "No frequency data available for this haplogroup." So, evidently, as far as FTDNA's team knows, there are no modern descendants of R-FT360002.

[rmstevens2]

So, why mention R1b-FT360002? Well, because it is kind of a mystery. What happened to it?

It was present during the Mesolithic Period among some hunter-gatherers at the Iron Gates on the Danube border of Romania and Serbia, as can be seen in this screenshot of FTDNA Discover's Time Tree.



Apparently that's it: those Mesolithic samples and then lights out - no FT360002 after that, including no modern men who are FT360002.

If I am reading this wrong, let me know. Does anyone out there know of anyone alive today (or recently) who is (or was) derived for FT360002? 

It's interesting that, ultimately, no PF6323 clade was very successful in Europe. Apparently FT360002 disappeared after the Mesolithic. Its sibling, V88, is rare everywhere today except in Sub-Saharan Africa. It pretty much vanished from Europe sometime in the 3rd millennium BC, hanging on in Sardinia into the Nuragic Period, but rare even there these days.

So, what the heck happened to FT360002?

[miquirumba]

same for several Bronze Age R1b-P312 early branches like R1b-Df27>Z195>Z198>FTC605
https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-FTC605/tree
They built a 5 centuries empire in SE Spain and then...
I paid T2T realigment in Theytree although new TY markers have not been checked yet by other lab (FTDNA was who discovered FTC605 and FTC606)
https://www.theytree.com/?snp=ftc605

[rmstevens2]

same for several Bronze Age R1b-P312 early branches like R1b-Df27>Z195>Z198>FTC605
https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-FTC605/tree
They built a 5 centuries empire in SE Spain and then...
I paid T2T realigment in Theytree although new TY markers have not been checked yet by other lab  (FTDNA was who discovered FTC605 and FTC606)
https://www.theytree.com/?snp=ftc605

That is interesting!

A couple of nights ago I watched a YouTube video on El Argar (a Dan Davis video). Very interesting.