Iron Age R1b-L21 from the Celtic Cenomani Tribe in Northern Italy

[rmstevens2]

are these too "modern" to be counted

https://www.researchgate.net/publication...alian_Alps


In South Tyrol (Eastern Italian Alps), during Late Antiquity-Early Middle Ages, archeological records indi-
cate cultural hybridization among alpine groups and peoples of various origin. Using paleogenomics, we
reconstructed the ancestry of 20 individuals (4th–7th cent. AD)

They aren't too modern. The ones that are R1b and have enough resolution to be interesting belong to subclades of U152, which isn't surprising, given the location.

[ChrisR]

are these too "modern" to be counted

I do not understand what is meant with "modern" to be counted - for consideration of ancient G25 coordinates?
The discussion about the results from this Late Antiquity Rhaeto-Roman cemetery is here:
Ancient (aDNA) > Late Antiquity-Early Middle Ages cemetery in the Eastern Italian Alps (Pages: 1 2 3 4 ... 6 )
Courtesy of @ilabv et al official G25 coordinates are available like also for the Celtic Cenomani data.
Celtic Cenomani LIA and Rhaeto-Roman LA admixture "touch" each other but Celtic Cenomani are more "Celto-Italic" (LaTene etc. + Latins/Etruscans) while Rhaeto-Romans are more like modern Trentino, so slightly Mediterranean pop shifted.