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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
Post: RE: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
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Pylsteen Wrote: (Yesterday, 07:37 AM)
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Rodoorn Wrote: (Yesterday, 06:56 AM)
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Nevertheless Jews were very present in the little towns in the North, I was grown up near Winschoten which contained ... |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
Post: RE: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
| Jewish beneath E-V22, E-PH2818:
https://i.postimg.cc/W1zkcwbs/Scherm-afbeelding-2024-05-20-om-12-13-49.png (https://postimg.cc/4YCdzt90)
Israel Y-tree:
https://www.theytree.com/?snp=PH2818 |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
Post: RE: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
| @Pylsteen "Outside of these places, they were generally not found during the 17th and 18th century: why leave the large cities where your network was?" You underestimate the vivid Jewish life "in the ... |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
Post: RE: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
| @Pylsteen, thanks for the exposé, nice read!
Nevertheless it doesn't react on my quest and considerations.
As E-V22 has most probably a connection with the occurrence of semi nomadic pastoralism... |
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05-19-2024, 09:08 PM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
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Pylsteen Wrote: (05-19-2024, 11:45 AM)
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I wanted to comment on your last message, but I see you've deleted it; in any case, the family of Uri halevi (who is the direct paternal ancestor of rabbi Ja... |
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05-19-2024, 12:10 PM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
Post: RE: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
| Deleted, have to examen it more. |
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05-19-2024, 11:03 AM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
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Pylsteen Wrote: (05-19-2024, 06:48 AM)
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I'll elaborate later today, there are some interesting insights from a.o. our friend Penninx.
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There are a few things to consider (I correspond on practi... |
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05-19-2024, 08:23 AM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
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Pylsteen Wrote: (05-18-2024, 08:57 AM)
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I think the Roman communities along the Rhine might be responsible for a lot of (Eastern) Mediterranean lineages in our lands; if I remember correctly, there... |
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05-19-2024, 03:41 AM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
Post: RE: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
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Dewsloth Wrote: (05-18-2024, 03:41 PM)
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Rodoorn Wrote: (05-18-2024, 08:17 AM)
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Dewsloth Wrote: (05-17-2024, 11:46 PM)
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Aggregated: [spoiler]
Target: DewslothDad_scaled
Distance: 0.3156% / 0... |
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05-18-2024, 03:57 PM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
Post: RE: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
| There are reasons not to think that modern Ashkenazi are 100% the Erfurt ones, see Razib Khan:
"The Erfurt community dates to the 1300’s. Interestingly it shows variation in Eastern European ancest... |
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05-18-2024, 01:56 PM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
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Pylsteen Wrote: (05-18-2024, 01:00 PM)
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I think the 17th century Leeuwarden jews (from which I partly descend!) will largely be similar to German jews from that era, indeed Emden was an important p... |
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05-18-2024, 01:36 PM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
Post: RE: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
| @Pylsteen, I like the chat gpt use of the world "real world consideration".
In the E-L1401 Frisian case I would like to add that.
But first from the numeric perspective a solitary E-L1401 stil... |
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05-18-2024, 11:47 AM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
Post: RE: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
| And an add, an influx of E-V22, a semitic forefather, around 450 AD (or even 1450 AD), would leave no trace in my fathers autosomal which seems like the case (on trace level). |
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05-18-2024, 09:31 AM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
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Pylsteen Wrote: (05-18-2024, 08:57 AM)
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Rodoorn Wrote: (05-18-2024, 08:03 AM)
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I'm curious about your opinion about the following case. My Y-DNA is E-V22/ E-L1401. And I seriously suspect that ... |
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05-18-2024, 09:08 AM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
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Riverman Wrote: (02-21-2024, 12:20 AM)
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What I wonder about is how common actually rare yDNA-subclades among Ashkenazi Jews are, which have a deeper Jewish history, to put it that way. Like going b... |
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05-18-2024, 08:45 AM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
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Dewsloth Wrote: (05-17-2024, 11:46 PM)
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Aggregated: [spoiler]
Target: DewslothDad_scaled
Distance: 0.3156% / 0.00315580
26.0 Germanic*(AD*100–630)
14.0 Italic*and*Etruscan*(900–200*BC)
12.2 Roman*G... |
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05-18-2024, 08:17 AM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
Post: RE: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
| Part II.
And overall the Semitic/Jewish results:
https://i.postimg.cc/vTWcp430/temp-Image1-Jc-Xi-I.avif (https://postimg.cc/ctLx3Lq3)
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https://i.postimg.cc/qRJT6Z8L/temp-Image-Ufs-CT5.avif (https:... |
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05-18-2024, 08:04 AM |
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Thread: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
Post: RE: Ashkenazi Jewish Origins Thread
| I'm curious about your opinion about the following case. My Y-DNA is E-V22/ E-L1401. And I seriously suspect that this is a Jewish (Ashkenazim) lineage. Why?
E-L1401 is in North-Dutch context a w... |
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05-18-2024, 08:03 AM |
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Thread: E-V22 origins and spread
Post: RE: E-V22 origins and spread
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Cejo Wrote: (05-14-2024, 01:17 PM)
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Is it necessary that pastoralists and farmers were different populations? Conceptually, I have been thinking of pastoralism vs. farming as an adaptation to envir... |
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05-15-2024, 10:38 AM |
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Thread: E-V22 origins and spread
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Kale Wrote: (05-14-2024, 05:03 PM)
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ilabv Wrote: (05-10-2024, 10:24 AM)
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Proto-Semitic at 6000 BC is quite frankly silly. Not worth refuting
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Would Pre-Proto-Semitic make sense at 6000BC? E.... |
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