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Ancient V samples - Capsian20 - 09-30-2023

Hello
Here it is Map ancient Haplogroup V
it will be updated as new sampes get published

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/mtdna-haplogroup-v_939594#3/43.11/18.25

Unfortunately i need to create new Map because i can't do update this new samples from Poland

PCA0086:V1a1
PCA0113: V
PCA0120: V2c
PCA0130: V1a1
PCA0148:V18a
PCA0206: V7b
PCA0244: V1a1
PCA0246: V1a1
PCA0339:V2c
PCA0483:V3c
PCA488: V3c
PCA0524:V

RE: Ancient V samples - JJJ - 10-21-2023

(09-30-2023, 06:36 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: Hello
Here it is Map ancient Haplogroup V
it will be updated as new sampes get published

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/mtdna-haplogroup-v_939594#3/43.11/18.25

Unfortunately i need to create new Map because i can't do update this new samples from Poland

PCA0086:V1a1
PCA0113: V
PCA0120: V2c
PCA0130: V1a1
PCA0148:V18a
PCA0206: V7b
PCA0244: V1a1
PCA0246: V1a1
PCA0339:V2c
PCA0483:V3c
PCA488: V3c
PCA0524:V

In the two Spanish samples, the subclade is not known?

RE: Ancient V samples - JonikW - 10-21-2023

(10-21-2023, 09:21 PM)JJJ Wrote:
(09-30-2023, 06:36 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: Hello
Here it is Map ancient Haplogroup V
it will be updated as new sampes get published

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/mtdna-haplogroup-v_939594#3/43.11/18.25

Unfortunately i need to create new Map because i can't do update this new samples from Poland

PCA0086:V1a1
PCA0113: V
PCA0120: V2c
PCA0130: V1a1
PCA0148:V18a
PCA0206: V7b
PCA0244: V1a1
PCA0246: V1a1
PCA0339:V2c
PCA0483:V3c
PCA488: V3c
PCA0524:V

In the two Spanish samples, the subclade is not known?

I don't know whether Capsian knows more but in my experience this is all too common with V samples. Even FTDNA still has me at V, but thanks to YFull I know I'm currently at V78. We still today even see studies that only get to HV0 rather than the potential V because they don't look at the coding region.

RE: Ancient V samples - Capsian20 - 10-21-2023

(10-21-2023, 09:21 PM)JJJ Wrote:
(09-30-2023, 06:36 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: Hello
Here it is Map ancient Haplogroup V
it will be updated as new sampes get published

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/mtdna-haplogroup-v_939594#3/43.11/18.25

Unfortunately i need to create new Map because i can't do update this new samples from Poland

PCA0086:V1a1
PCA0113: V
PCA0120: V2c
PCA0130: V1a1
PCA0148:V18a
PCA0206: V7b
PCA0244: V1a1
PCA0246: V1a1
PCA0339:V2c
PCA0483:V3c
PCA488: V3c
PCA0524:V

In the two Spanish samples, the subclade is not known?

Yes unknown subclade

RE: Ancient V samples - Capsian20 - 10-21-2023

(10-21-2023, 09:41 PM)JonikW Wrote:
(10-21-2023, 09:21 PM)JJJ Wrote:
(09-30-2023, 06:36 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: Hello
Here it is Map ancient Haplogroup V
it will be updated as new sampes get published
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/mtdna-haplogroup-v_939594#3/43.11/18.25
Unfortunately i need to create new Map because i can't do update this new samples from Poland
PCA0086:V1a1
PCA0113: V
PCA0120: V2c
PCA0130: V1a1
PCA0148:V18a
PCA0206: V7b
PCA0244: V1a1
PCA0246: V1a1
PCA0339:V2c
PCA0483:V3c
PCA488: V3c
PCA0524:V

In the two Spanish samples, the subclade is not known?
I don't know whether Capsian knows more but in my experience this is all too common with V samples. Even FTDNA still has me at V, but thanks to YFull I know I'm currently at V78. We still today even see studies that only get to HV0 rather than the potential V because they don't look at the coding region.

you right JonikW , in FTDNA there just 28 subclades so many samples its new subclades ( V29 to 97) on MTree but its still V
My result in 23andME it's still only V

RE: Ancient V samples - Capsian20 - 10-21-2023

My result in 23andME and WGS

RE: Ancient V samples - JJJ - 10-22-2023

(10-21-2023, 10:00 PM)Capsian20 Wrote:
(10-21-2023, 09:41 PM)JonikW Wrote:
(10-21-2023, 09:21 PM)JJJ Wrote:
(09-30-2023, 06:36 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: Hello
Here it is Map ancient Haplogroup V
it will be updated as new sampes get published
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/mtdna-haplogroup-v_939594#3/43.11/18.25
Unfortunately i need to create new Map because i can't do update this new samples from Poland
PCA0086:V1a1
PCA0113: V
PCA0120: V2c
PCA0130: V1a1
PCA0148:V18a
PCA0206: V7b
PCA0244: V1a1
PCA0246: V1a1
PCA0339:V2c
PCA0483:V3c
PCA488: V3c
PCA0524:V

In the two Spanish samples, the subclade is not known?
I don't know whether Capsian knows more but in my experience this is all too common with V samples. Even FTDNA still has me at V, but thanks to YFull I know I'm currently at V78. We still today even see studies that only get to HV0 rather than the potential V because they don't look at the coding region.

you right JonikW , in FTDNA there just 28 subclades so many samples its new subclades ( V29 to 97) on MTree but its still V
My result in 23andME it's still only V

They gave me HV and they were satisfied xd

I was told a trick to rule out HV from V by looking at the raw data of 23andme and sure enough I managed to figure out it was V, a WGS test confirmed it and gave me a subclade on Yfull.
[Image: VmEA29B.jpg]

RE: Ancient V samples - Capsian20 - 10-22-2023

(10-22-2023, 09:04 AM)JJJ Wrote:
(10-21-2023, 10:00 PM)Capsian20 Wrote:
(10-21-2023, 09:41 PM)JonikW Wrote:
(10-21-2023, 09:21 PM)JJJ Wrote:
(09-30-2023, 06:36 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: Hello
Here it is Map ancient Haplogroup V
it will be updated as new sampes get published
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/mtdna-haplogroup-v_939594#3/43.11/18.25
Unfortunately i need to create new Map because i can't do update this new samples from Poland
PCA0086:V1a1
PCA0113: V
PCA0120: V2c
PCA0130: V1a1
PCA0148:V18a
PCA0206: V7b
PCA0244: V1a1
PCA0246: V1a1
PCA0339:V2c
PCA0483:V3c
PCA488: V3c
PCA0524:V

In the two Spanish samples, the subclade is not known?
I don't know whether Capsian knows more but in my experience this is all too common with V samples. Even FTDNA still has me at V, but thanks to YFull I know I'm currently at V78. We still today even see studies that only get to HV0 rather than the potential V because they don't look at the coding region.

you right JonikW , in FTDNA there just 28 subclades so many samples its new subclades ( V29 to 97) on MTree but its still V
My result in 23andME it's still only V

They gave me HV and they were satisfied xd
I was told a trick to rule out HV from V by looking at the raw data of 23andme and sure enough I managed to figure out it was V, a WGS test confirmed it and gave me a subclade on Yfull.

Oh this so interested so maybe people HV0a are also V

RE: Ancient V samples - ph2ter - 10-22-2023

(10-22-2023, 09:31 AM)Capsian20 Wrote: Oh this so interested so maybe people HV0a are also V

V is only one of several HV0a branches.

RE: Ancient V samples - Capsian20 - 10-22-2023

(10-22-2023, 09:40 AM)ph2ter Wrote:
(10-22-2023, 09:31 AM)Capsian20 Wrote: Oh this so interested so maybe people HV0a are also V
V is only one of several HV0a branches.

Yes i know this there HV0a1 , HV0a2 , HV0a3 but i just hope hhh ( I just joking )
have good day ph2tf

RE: Ancient V samples - JonikW - 10-22-2023

(10-22-2023, 09:31 AM)Capsian20 Wrote:
(10-22-2023, 09:04 AM)JJJ Wrote:
(10-21-2023, 10:00 PM)Capsian20 Wrote:
(10-21-2023, 09:41 PM)JonikW Wrote:
(10-21-2023, 09:21 PM)JJJ Wrote: In the two Spanish samples, the subclade is not known?
I don't know whether Capsian knows more but in my experience this is all too common with V samples. Even FTDNA still has me at V, but thanks to YFull I know I'm currently at V78. We still today even see studies that only get to HV0 rather than the potential V because they don't look at the coding region.

you right JonikW , in FTDNA there just 28 subclades so many samples its new subclades ( V29 to 97) on MTree but its still V
My result in 23andME it's still only V

They gave me HV and they were satisfied xd
I was told a trick to rule out HV from V by looking at the raw data of 23andme and sure enough I managed to figure out it was V, a WGS test confirmed it and gave me a subclade on Yfull.

Oh this so interested so maybe people HV0a are also V

The odds are certainly in favour of some of the HV0 aDNA samples that have been published over the years in fact being V.

RE: Ancient V samples - Capsian20 - 10-22-2023

(10-22-2023, 10:09 AM)JonikW Wrote:
(10-22-2023, 09:31 AM)Capsian20 Wrote:
(10-22-2023, 09:04 AM)JJJ Wrote:
(10-21-2023, 10:00 PM)Capsian20 Wrote:
(10-21-2023, 09:41 PM)JonikW Wrote: I don't know whether Capsian knows more but in my experience this is all too common with V samples. Even FTDNA still has me at V, but thanks to YFull I know I'm currently at V78. We still today even see studies that only get to HV0 rather than the potential V because they don't look at the coding region.

you right JonikW , in FTDNA there just 28 subclades so many samples its new subclades ( V29 to 97) on MTree but its still V
My result in 23andME it's still only V

They gave me HV and they were satisfied xd
I was told a trick to rule out HV from V by looking at the raw data of 23andme and sure enough I managed to figure out it was V, a WGS test confirmed it and gave me a subclade on Yfull.

Oh this so interested so maybe people HV0a are also V

The odds are certainly in favour of some of the HV0 aDNA samples that have been published over the years in fact being V.

but i think there isn't there any updating in 23andME about subclades mtDNA to yet

RE: Ancient V samples - Capsian20 - 10-22-2023

Very intersted for my file 23anndME
I uploded my file to JamesLick and studio DNA kit 2.8 and tellmegen
I got subclade V12

RE: Ancient V samples - Capsian20 - 12-08-2023

New samples from Serbia and Croatia
I15533: V1a1 (200-300 CE) from Serbia
I23304: V (100-300 CE) from Serbia
I26718: V16 (100-400 CE) from Croatia
I27295: V7 (450-550 CE) from Serbia

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(23)01135-2

RE: Ancient V samples - Capsian20 - 12-08-2023

Very interesting my friend send me this picture I32304 it's very possible belong a mtDNA V25 ( V25c ) Iberians and North Africans