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What is methode test mtDNA in 23andME ?
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Hello everybody
I would ask about methode test mtDNA in 23andME
I believe maybe 23andME according in test mtDNA  HVR1+HVR2
its true or wrong
thanks
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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(05-09-2024, 05:25 AM)Capsian20 Wrote: Hello everybody
I would ask about methode test mtDNA in 23andME
I believe maybe 23andME according in test mtDNA  HVR1+HVR2
its true or wrong
thanks

no, it's based on full sequence but they only test about 4,500 out 16,569 sites , some results are wrong subclades specially H haplogroup
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(05-09-2024, 03:28 PM)miquirumba Wrote:
(05-09-2024, 05:25 AM)Capsian20 Wrote: Hello everybody
I would ask about methode test mtDNA in 23andME
I believe maybe 23andME according in test mtDNA  HVR1+HVR2
its true or wrong
thanks

no, it's based on full sequence but they only test about 4,500 out 16,569 sites , some results are wrong subclades specially H haplogroup

Thans you , if its H2a very possible its wrong result , I have been uploaded ( file FTDNA Autosomal ) i got H2a i know arent there SNP mtDNA on file FTDNA ( i only give this note because you said Haplogroup H )
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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(05-09-2024, 05:06 PM)Capsian20 Wrote:
(05-09-2024, 03:28 PM)miquirumba Wrote:
(05-09-2024, 05:25 AM)Capsian20 Wrote: Hello everybody
I would ask about methode test mtDNA in 23andME
I believe maybe 23andME according in test mtDNA  HVR1+HVR2
its true or wrong
thanks

no, it's based on full sequence but they only test about 4,500 out 16,569 sites , some results are wrong subclades specially H haplogroup

Thans you , if its H2a very possible its wrong result , I have been uploaded ( file FTDNA Autosomal ) i got H2a i know arent there SNP mtDNA on file FTDNA ( i only give this note because you said Haplogroup H )

Family Finder has only 179 mt SNPs and you need at least 3,000 most variable mt SNPs like Genera or Living DNA raw data
Roberta Estes advanced that FTDNA wants to include basic maternal haplogroup prediction in FF next year with more SNPs
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(05-09-2024, 05:29 PM)miquirumba Wrote:
(05-09-2024, 05:06 PM)Capsian20 Wrote:
(05-09-2024, 03:28 PM)miquirumba Wrote: no, it's based on full sequence but they only test about 4,500 out 16,569 sites , some results are wrong subclades specially H haplogroup

Thans you , if its H2a very possible its wrong result , I have been uploaded ( file FTDNA Autosomal ) i got H2a i know arent there SNP mtDNA on file FTDNA ( i only give this note because you said Haplogroup H )

Family Finder has only 179 mt SNPs and you need at least 3,000 most variable mt SNPs like Genera or Living DNA raw data
Roberta Estes advanced that FTDNA wants to include basic maternal haplogroup prediction in FF next year with more SNPs

The good but i think we will get only basic mtDNA example mtDNA V , H , T , J1 ects....
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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I did some tests on James Lick's site:
https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

So far this tool is working fine.

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Supported formats: 23andme,  FASTA and other .
Easy to use.
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(05-31-2024, 01:38 PM)TanTin Wrote: I did some tests on James Lick's site:
https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

So far this tool is working fine.

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Supported formats: 23andme,  FASTA and other .
Easy to use.

I used now file 23andME i got V < V12

Quote:1) V12
Defining Markers for haplogroup V12:
HVR2: 72C 263G
CR: 750G 1438G 2706G 4580A 4769G 7028T 7270C 8860G 15326G 15904T
HVR1: 16298C

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup V12 (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 72C 16298C ⇨ HV0 ⇨ 15904T ⇨ HV0a ⇨ 4580A ⇨ V ⇨ 7270C ⇨ V12 ⇨ 93G (309.1C) (315.1C) 513A 14629T

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(12): 72C 263G 750G 1438G 2706G 4580A 4769G 7028T 7270C 8860G 15326G 15904T
Mismatches(1): 16298T
Extras(3): 93G (309.1C) (315.1C) 513A 14629T

2) V25
Defining Markers for haplogroup V25:
HVR2: 72C 263G
CR: 750G 1438G 2706G 4580A 4769G 7028T 8860G 14629T 15326G 15904T
HVR1: 16298C

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup V25 (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 72C 16298C ⇨ HV0 ⇨ 15904T ⇨ HV0a ⇨ 4580A ⇨ V ⇨ 14629T ⇨ V25 ⇨ 93G (309.1C) (315.1C) 513A 7270C

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(12): 72C 263G 750G 1438G 2706G 4580A 4769G 7028T 8860G 14629T 15326G 15904T
Mismatches(1): 16298T
Extras(3): 93G (309.1C) (315.1C) 513A 7270C
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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(05-31-2024, 02:04 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: I used now file 23andME i got V < V12

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Which site or software did you use to generate your results ?
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Another site:
https://haplogrep.i-med.ac.at/

supported file formats: fasta, VCF , hsd.
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(05-31-2024, 09:32 PM)TanTin Wrote:
(05-31-2024, 02:04 PM)Capsian20 Wrote: I used now file 23andME i got V < V12

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Which site or software did you use to generate your results ?

Hi i used https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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